Did you know its legal for an adult to smoke in their own home?
Did you know its legal to transport a young child in an automobile so long as a proper child seat is used?
Did you know its legal to grow vegetables for personal consumption without a license?
Did you know you can also brew beer for personal use without a license?
Did you know its perfectly legal to use cuss words?
Did you know in most states a child can consume alcohol with a parent’s permission?
Did you know that in many states its legal to gamble at a casino or betting parlor?
I could go on-and-on, but let’s face it, for each of those you said “Yeah So?”
All of the above things can be abused, misused, and maybe even cause death! Still these things are legal, and have been legal damn near forever. The above statements are really stupid because they cause no problems so nobody really cares.
Of course for those who hate freedom, they think differently
Be careful who you cut off on the Wilson and Memorial bridges on your way in, though, because no one likes pyrotechnics more than the pistol-packing patrons of Champps sports bars in Northern Virginia.
Virginia’s new law permitting concealed weapons in saloons went into effect Thursday, and patrons of Champps celebrated with Glocks and iced tea. There are good reasons to pack heat in Virginia’s sports bars. You certainly need a semiautomatic firearm at Champps to defend your family against those dangerous Loaded Chips appetizers
Yep good old freedom-hating Mike Licht is getting all bent out of shape that Virginia decided to join the rest of the nation by repealing a dumb law that most other states seem to carry on just fine without.
Hell go look at the photo gallery, lots of happy smiling faces enjoying themselves…and you’ll note NO bloodshed. Hmmm Don’t see that as much With the other side… hmmm?
Nope seems kinda foolish when Virginia was behind the times with their laws, and the antis get all butthurt when a state makes progress. Why do they call themselves “Progressives” again?
Here’s a news flash to those who hate the Nanny state letting people be grown-ups. Restaurant and Bar carry is NOT a problem in the states where its been legal for generations. It hasn’t been a problem in states that only recently legalized it. If you’re upset about this stupid law being repealed there is something wrong with you, not the rest of us.
Oh and the guy with the Gadsden Shirt and the Kimber 1911, he has a REALLY sweet IWB carry rig! With a rig like that I’m GLAD he’s open carrying, its REALLY REALLY nice!
Yeah, no bloodshed here either. My guns must be defective or something, because they both totally failed to jump out of their holsters and start killing people.
Yep. Hell I’ve been known to go into an honest-to-God bar, sit on a Bar stool with a loaded gun under my coat and hoist a beer.
Scarier yet, after consuming said beer I might get behind the wheel of my truck and drive home.
Somehow a single beer on an adult male, while impossible to make him lawfully drunk is something these goofs totally fear. Oh, and they ONLY fear the gun part…not the car.
Well that’s because Antis drive cars too!
A lot of people do it anyway where it isn’t legal.
Usually they get exonerated if they end up having to use the firearm.
Billy Joe Shaver comes to mind, one of our finer songwriters.
“Shaver testified that he feared for his life when he shot Coker in the upper lip on the back patio of the bar in Lorena, just south of Waco, with a .22-caliber pistol that was smaller than the palm of his hand.
Shaver said he was nervous after Coker brandished a knife in the bar and then asked him to step outside.
“I wanted to scare him … wanted to beat him to the punch.
…Perhaps the most critical testimony came from Daniel Silvas, who said he saw the shooting from his truck after he pulled into the bar.
Silvas said he saw a quarrel between two men, one of whom he later learned was Shaver. The other man then went at Shaver with a knife as Shaver backed away, Silvas said.
“To me it looked like (Shaver) was just trying to … to get away” before firing, Silvas said.”
Jury acquitted him of aggravated assault in the shooting, the charge of “unlawful carrying of a handgun by a license holder” will likely be dropped as well…
When it comes down to it, and I know this WELL from my music days, lot s of people carry anyway, just like everywhere else, and unless you’re going to make bars put in metal detectors and pat down everybody, unless they do something wrong, the odds of them getting caught are low and they will continue to do it. Not at all unlike the fact that before Texas had CHLs a lot of people carried or kept guns in their console or glovebox and most every woman I’ve ever known has had at least a .38 in her purse. Back in those days, especially non-criminal woman would basically NEVER get charged for it, as cops understood why they had .38s in their purse.
Plenty of otherwise law abiding people always break that particular law anyway so it’s sorta pointless.
In the live music business you’re often dealing with a CASH business. I did sound for a number of Leon Russell shows over the years and he always got paid Ten Thousand Dollars in CASH before he played. He didn’t trust people on checks because of bad checks. Billy Joe Shaver, same. He once did a week long run in Amarillo and the club owner wrote him a bad check. So if you’re getting paid in large amounts of CASH and don’t carry a gun, even if it’s illegal, you’re kinda putting yourself at risk unless you hire armed security to follow you around all day…Criminals very well know that the nightclub business is mostly a cash business. Same with waitresses and bartenders/barmaids and their tips…
100% agree, generally defensive shootings the police look the other way on the minor infractions (See also the two recent Chicago Defensive shootings) On a lesser sense I know cops around here who just quietly took the empty bottle of pepper spray away from the would-be-rape victim and kept their mouth shut.
Carrying pepper spray without a license is a crime here. I’ve personally given away several bottles of pepper to people who had stalkers, or crazy exes or family members. They weren’t licensed, and I know it, and I don’t care who does. You gonna charge me with giving a woman who’s being stalked by her ex-boyfriend a can of pepper? You know I bought a bottle of Tobasco sauce and some habeneros the other day without flashing my permit too!
Dumb laws.
Sure we can ignore them, but ignoring them doesn’t defeat them! We must FIGHT the bad laws.
“All an unarmed man can do is flee from evil, and fleeing from evil NEVER defeats it.” – Jeff Cooper.
I have always been amused by those halfwitted morons who respond to the laws prohibiting carrying while drinking with a standardized response of, “Why would you need to go into a bar if you are not going to drink?”
Yeah. ‘Cause apparently they have never heard of “designated drivers”.
Seems to me that we should start a “designated carrier” movement, especially since it dovetails nicely into the movement against driving/carrying while intoxicated, and throws one hell of a monkey into the wrench of those looking to abridge our rights simply because we want to have a nice dinner out.
This is not to say that people will not go out, get liquored up, and start shooting the hell out of whatever hole in the wall they currently are occupying. However, history and news have more than adequately demonstrated that such people are massively in the minority, and they occur with a significantly lower frequency than purebred morons getting thrashed and getting behind the wheel of a car. Unfortunately, reality has never stood in the way of those looking to abridge people’s rights and control them…
Yeah the wife isn’t much of a boozer (Nor does she drive) but she’s often in what antis consider “Bars” all the time, for get-togethers, or just because we love us some pub food!
That being said, Just about any place would have no issue with the average joe bellying up to the bar, knocking back two beers, while talking with his buddies, maybe playing some pool or darts, then getting in his car and driving home.
I mean we don’t have zero tolerance for drunk driving. I think we can all agree that most people can consume an amount of alcohol but not be “Drunk”, and certainly not have their judgment so altered that they can’t drive…or carry a gun.
And hell, my big concern about drunk driving is slowed reaction time, and nodding off….not suddenly thinking 100 MPH on a side street is a good idea, or deciding that Red lights don’t apply to me. So how would I be different if I was fall-down drunk with a 1911 on me, besides the risk of bruising a rib if I fall on my 1911…..
They just don’t apply reality to issues that relate to guns.
After a few years, I got tired of explaining to people why I wanted Virginia law to change.
“But why would you need to carry a gun in a bar? Drunks don’t need guns!”
“A. Many’s the time when I’ve been in an Honest-to-God ‘We serve BOTH kinds of refreshments, Beer AND whiskey!’ joint, had one or two drinks over an hour or two, and left. WELL under the legal limit to go driving down crowded streets at 55 mph.
“And, B., Legally speaking, VIRGINIA DOESN’T HAVE BARS. We have restaurants that happen to have a liquor license — to GET a liquor license for on-site consupmtion, you MUST serve hot food. ‘Pizza Hut’ is legally the same in Virginia as ‘Billy-Bob’s Redneck Biker Meth and Strippers Emporium and DUI Shoppe’.”
“You mean. . . ?”
“Yup. Under the ‘No concealed guns in bars’ law, you can’t pick up a carry out pizza on the way home if the place serves beer to dine-in customers. Because you just stepped into a ‘bar.”
Yep, and as I said above, such laws which are VASTLY more liberal than the newly minted Virginia and Arizona laws have been around in many of the Northern States for generations.
….with no noticeable problems.
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