She’s a bit more talkative than normal. Been tossing out some gems. First you might have read this one in the comments of one of my last posts:
As to the slanted VPC report, you provided me with a link to a paper written by Clayton Cramer, a well know gun right activist and author in support of gun rights. And he is not slanted? Come on Bryan, you can do better than that.
Yep, a well-written paper by Clayton Cramer is biased and should be ignored, while garbage from Joyce is wonderful! Also neat that she’s quick to drop the bias flag (I don’t blame her, if she read the paper it would make her cry!) We can note that Anti-rights people ONLY cite studies, surveys, and papers written by other people who work for the same groups that they do. Their ideology only exists in a pocket of “reality” that they created for themselves.
From the same thread:
The only agenda the Violence Policy Center has to collect data and write reports about gun violence statistics. They are based on real live incidents and shootings. They don’t have a political agenda any more than Clayton Cramer does. He has an agenda. Are you trying to say he doesn’t? So if someone writes on your side of the issue, they have no agenda? I don’t accept that Bryan. The link you sent is one that accepts research from anyone who wants to submit it. The VPC is reporting on shootings of permit holders. If they shoot themselves in a suicide or a homicide/suicide, it doesn’t then count as someone misusing a gun? You are trying to dismiss the fact that permit holders are not all law abiding. You can’t because the facts speak for themselves. It happens that I trust the VPC more than I trust a gun right advocate who has a clear agenda.
And from this post:
Of course, people should be trained when they carry guns around. You are aware though, that no training is required to buy a gun. Some states require no training for permit holders. That is a major problem, to say the least. Gun ranges are fine. Who needs “tactical” training as if going to war. That is not necessary. The average gun owner is not going to be in situations that require tactical training. Some of you gun guys imagine yourself in situations like that where you will be fighting against your own government on the streets of America. A makeshift gun range in a residential neighborhood is just plain wrong and dangerous. Find places outside of town. Even those have had problems however. In Texas, there was a shooting of a young boy playing basketball on a school’s playground when a bullet from some guys target shooting in a woods nearby ( in a rural area) hit the boy. In my area, several guys were target shooting in the woods when a bullet from one of their guns flew across a major highway and ended up shooting a little girl on her way into her church. These are totally irresponsible and unacceptable. Guns are inherently dangerous and should be treated with the ultimate respect.Too many gun owners are cavalier about this and don’t practice the rules of safety. If even one life is lost as a result, it is one too many.
Now note she puts scare quotes around “Tactical” because she has NO idea what that means…just that its bad. Also note that shooting in residential areas is bad…and shooting in rural areas is bad. But she doesn’t want to ban guns and shooting…no, not at all!
Thanks Joan, you’re great for a laugh! Keep wasting those Joyce Foundation dollars, soon that well will run dry, and you’ll need to find a REAL job!