Tin Ear

Gotta love the tin ear of the antis:

Should citizens be allowed to carry firearms on Indiana’s public university campuses?

It’s a question that’s arisen in the Indiana General Assembly through legislation filed by Sen. Jim Banks, who wants public college students to be able to have guns at school for their personal protection.

Sounds like a plan to me! Given that the streets around most campuses people can freely carry guns, and how many students are 21+ GIs who were trained and expected to carry guns. I don’t see an issue. What’s the big deal?

Though the measure may have little chance of passage, it comes as the nation is once again immersed in a debate over how best to protect schools and colleges in the wake of the November massacre at a Newtown elementary school, which left 28 dead, including the shooter.

Banks, a Columbia City Republican, said the measure, Senate Bill 97, wasn’t prompted by that tragedy, nor the 2007 slaughter at Virginia Tech University where 32 people were killed and 17 wounded by a shooter who then took his own life.

Yeah, those gun free zones worked AWESOME in those situations didn’t they? Remember Einstein’s definition of insanity?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

She goes on for a bit listing some honest people and their concerns about safety on campus, but doesn’t take long to get back to the anti-rights tripe:

He said the presence of guns on campus would create a more dangerous campus environment for police, including making it more difficult to police student parties where alcohol is served and under-age drinking can occur.

“We don’t have to worry about (the fact that) several people could be armed,” Cox said. “It creates a safer environment when you go around knowing that the only people who should have guns on campus are police.”

That’s a nice comfort isn’t it? If somebody is shooting up your classroom you know they are being VERY VERY BAD! Also when a woman gets raped on campus by somebody with a knife, or just brute force they know FOR SURE, their rapist isn’t a cop! Comforting…

Only Utah has a statute specifically prohibiting public colleges and universities from barring guns.

I’ll list all the spree shootings in the state of Utah….ok, I’m done.

But, Pelosi said, school shootings have made university presidents “more vocal than they were before in opposition, and I think you’ll see more push-back from college professors and others.”

Campus law enforcement, he said, doesn’t want more guns on campus. “They don’t want to have to decide who is the good guy and who’s the bad guy” when responding to a shooting scene, he said.

Well given that professors and administrators live in their nice ivory tower, and don’t need to worry about late nite walks home to the dorms and off-campus housing. This is only slightly less ironic than the lawmakers who employ armed guards for themselves and their families telling us WE don’t need guns. Also can we put this “We don’t need to worry about who the good guy is” crap? First up this is what every town cop in America needs to be trained to handle, and there hasn’t been a problem.

Look let’s face it, the good guy isn’t going to be wantonly shooting people. And in the instance that its a one-on-one, or other targeted violent crime, the situation will be diffused by the time the police arrive. Hint, if the person isn’t pointing the gun at you or other people, and when you tell them to drop the gun they do, they’re the good guy.

“We’ve already got a problem on our campuses with alcohol, and as much as anybody wants to find an excuse for it, I think that combining those two (guns and alcohol) is more than dangerous, and I will not support that bill,” he said.

Ah yes, colleges are nothing but drunken stupors! I wonder why businesses even HIRE college graduates. I mean if you say you matriculated, it simply means you’re an alcoholic or a drug addict, right?

This is what passes for logic with them.

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4 Responses to Tin Ear

  1. Stuart the Viking says:

    This is just yet another twist on the “You shouldn’t have the right to defend yourself because it makes LEO’s job harder” argument. This is right up there with saying that you shouldn’t have the right to privacy… protection from illegal search and seizure… or any of a myriad of other rights because they make LEO’s job harder.

    As you have stated before. These people are anti-freedom, not just anti-gun.

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  2. Scott says:

    I would love to be able to carry on the campus where I work. Hell, I risked getting fired today because I have my dad’s unloaded 9mm in my trunk (no ammo in the car, just the gun itself).

    We so worry about active shooters on campus, we run active shooter scenarios with the Arlington County police once a year, but we don’t take any steps to protect ourselves during the rest of the year. The employee handbook says having a weapon (even a knife or I guess a bat, fork or blowtorch) in your possession constitutes menacing and will be grounds for immediate termination. Its ridiculous.

    I would not necessarily advocate that Joe freshmen be allowed to carry, but what about 200+ veterans and active duty students on my campus? What about the retired police officers that now teach Criminal Justice or Sociology or the law classes? What about me? I passed my carry class, I go to the range. I can hit the target and I don’t want to get killed by an angry/student/parent or homeless person that for some reason is pissed off at the Registrar….But no the President here says, we are not even going to discuss it. So that means I have to risk getting fired to protect me and the people that work for me? Very fucking unfair….and I cannot smoke on campus anymore (not that I am a smoker, but you get my drift)….

  3. Rob Crawford says:

    “It creates a safer environment when you go around knowing that the only people who should have guns on campus are police.”

    My alma mater was also, officially, gun-free. Didn’t stop the juiced-up jock thugs from threatening to shoot my roommate, girlfriend, and me. Didn’t stop the muggings from the off-campus thugs that just walked up the hill from the projects — or the stray rounds from the projects that occasionally came through a dorm room window.

  4. Phssthpok says:

    “He said the presence of guns on campus would create a more dangerous campus environment for police, including making it more difficult to police student parties where alcohol is served and under-age drinking can occur.

    “We don’t have to worry about (the fact that) several people could be armed,” Cox said. “It creates a safer environment when you go around knowing that the only people who should have guns on campus are police.”

    You’re missing the take-away here; He’sonly interested in making the campus saferfor the cops.

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