Nobody died, and thankfully no serious injury, but you’ll see why I picked this story:
A 74-year-old man working at a Littleton stockyard was gored by a bull on Sunday, officials said.
Ronald Pollock was taken to Emerson Hospital in Concord but is expected to survive, authorities and colleagues said.
Police had to kill the out-of-control bull, authorities said.
…He was loading the bull onto a truck and was closing the truck’s gate when the bull whipped around, knocked the gate open with its horns, and attacked him, McGovern said.
From other reports I’ve heard the man was slammed down to the ground BETWEEN the bull’s horns.
Sorry, but a thousand pounds of angry beef against a maybe 200 pound guy, you know who’s gonna win. Thankfully they were able to get him to safety before he was killed.
Also the “Gun Death” advocates seem to say that you don’t NEED a gun ever, but seems guns were needed and used in this case. This bull was valuable property, nobody wanted it dead that day, but that’s what needed to be done.
It’s fiesta time
In Guadalajara!
Which is why ANYTIME we worked cattle when I was growing up, everybody was armed… First time I ever shot a gun in anger was at a damn longhorn that was intent on killing me…
Do the anti-freedom people also reject firearms to defend against feral/out-of-control animals?
Jack/OH,
Yes. I have had that particular argument with an anti-gun fanatic. Her first reaction was “that doesn’t happen”, then she moved to “just use a taser” (apparently she didn’t know about cattle prods). She ended up with “you are just stupid” and declared victory because she couldn’t refute what I was saying.
The simple thing is, in a rural setting, and even in some more suburban and to a lesser extent urban environments, attack by an animal IS a possibility. I grew up on a small farm. While we did have to watch for the bull, he would flat out run you down if you were in his pasture and he decided to, the feral dogs were a much bigger problem where I was from. While attack by feral dogs aren’t real common, it was pretty common for us to have to protect the livestock from them. They tended to scatter when the shotgun came out.
Taser my ass….
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Thanks, Stuart. I’m a city dweller, and we do have some rare cases of uncontrolled, aggressive dogs. Some have been shot by police.
I’ve been trying to follow the anti-freedom/anti-gun people’s thinking—and it ain’t working for me. None of it.
Joan, for example, has a case based on her sister’s murder. But not for abridging gun freedom. What I think she has a good case for is better divorce management. Her sister’s case would be good for a few hours of continuing legal education on how to better handle a divorce situation where one spouse is unstable, wealthy, and dangerous enough to warrant a protective order. That’s about it.
Stuart, regarding the anti-gun fanatics. I know two nice, smart people. One of them brought up the subject of guns. The usual unreasoning, disparaging comments (“wrong, just wrong”, etc.). I pointed out that gun rights are about property rights, civil liberties, civic and personal empowerment. No soap–they were right, I’m wrong. The only explanations I can think of are: (1) some sort of learned psychological disability (getting beaten up in gym class?), or, (2) raging elitism–these very well-educated people can’t imagine ordinary folks lawfully making moral judgments in self-defense situations. Just a guess.
As a former anti-gun guy I see it as people emotionally investing themselves in the issues. We see it in the gun forums too with the “Glock Vs. 1911” or 9x19mm vs. .45 ACP ect as well. When some people make up their mind on an issue it is seen as a personal attack on their entire being when that issue is effectively challenged.
They feel that admitting they are wrong means they’re a complete idiot and maybe even less of a person, when it’s just the opposite.
Another great example is I know a ton of die-hard Liberals, and I’ve been having fun when they mention what a “nut” Rand Paul is. I ask them what specifically that he stands for they’re against. Hell from a platform sense I’d imagine more Democrats would side with Paul on bare issues when put against Obama, or Hillary Clinton.
But they’ve committed to being Democrats so to suddenly admit that a Libertarian Leaning REPUBLICAN like Paul is better on their core issues of Drugs, Gays, Abortion, and war than the current flag bearers for their party is just a bridge too far.
I’m sadly starting to see myself as some messed up outlier who CONSTANTLY challenges his own beliefs. My First Presidential election I voted for Al Gore, and if asked I’d say I was a Democrat. My Second Election I voted for Bush and I was a registered Republican, and a self-identified Conservative.
Now I have withdrawn from the Republican party as an Independent, and I identify as a libertarian, or a classic liberal (note the lack of capitalization there), because I admit, on those past instances I was wrong.
I’ll be admitting I was wrong again in the future as I learn more about this issue or another.
Hell even stuff that I’ve been pretty consistent with I’ve changed a lot. I’ve always been pro-gay, but first I was pro Gay Marriage, now I’m not sure why the government is involved in any romantic relationships at all. I used to be for legalizing marijuana because it was foolish to ban such a harmless drug. Now I’m for legalizing ALL drugs because even the government banning or heavily restricting the scary dangerous ones is a disaster.
Also your last bit about raging elitism does ring true, but it’s more of the “I’m well educated, so my opinions are more valid than the unwashed masses!” But we must remember that even Stephen Hawking has admitted he was wrong about some of his theories about black holes, AND THAT’S HIS SPECIALIZED REALM OF EXPERTISE!!! Meanwhile we have politicians who are mostly lawyers who are claiming their opinions on firearms is more valid than the dude who barley graduated high school, but is working on his 15th AR Build and shoots Master at his local Action Pistol club.
The educated elites don’t want to admit that despite all the studying they have done on X subject, they can still be completely ignorant on other subjects, or even be taught complete crap in their subject of study.