Anti-Gun, Anti-Logic

You have to wonder about the anti-gunners. First up, they seem to be imploding. Have a look at Watt’s speech at the NRAAM:

She’s talking about what a good job they’re doing….yet they have accomplished virtually nothing. Speaking of accomplishing virtually nothing, her “Massive Protest” boasting 400 people fell flat, they attempted to fake it with a trick photo, and this was even BUSING in the protestors!

The NRA got 70,000 plus attendees, and most of these people had to pay their own way, and came just because they love guns, and support the 2nd Amendment. Also the antis keep telling us how much NRA members disagree with the “Extreme Positions” of the NRA….yet they don’t seem to be getting the message, and keep supporting the NRA with their presence and with their dollars.

Meanwhile the Antis claim they are the majority, and the righteous, yet their money comes from a small number of wealthy uber-“Progressive” people, and they need to constantly over-state their numbers by putting up multiple shell groups run by the same few wealthy anti-gun people, and claiming 150 people was “500”.

And of course they naturally defy logic:

NASHVILLE, TN — Richard Martinez’s son Christopher was shot and killed in a shooting spree near the University of California Santa Barbara last May. The tragedy and Martinez’s call for “not one more” sparked a national conversation about strengthening gun control laws to prevent weapons from getting into the wrong hands.

But while gun control groups have pushed for what they call common sense reforms, the National Rifle Association is attempting to move legislation forward to allow students on college campuses to carry weapons. Martinez, who knows firsthand the consequences of campus violence, told ThinkProgress these proposals will only exacerbate campus violence and incidents of sexual assault.

“You ask the gun extremists what to do to reduce gun violence and they say more guns,” Martinez said. “More guns on the streets, campuses and playgrounds. That’s a solution from the 18th century, not the 21st century.”

Of course Mr. Martinez’s Son was murdered in the most Anti-Gun state in the Union, and his killer left a VERY detailed diary of his plans, and he openly stated he feared armed people, and chose a time and place where it would be highly unlikely anybody would be shooting back before he heard police sirens.

Also there are colleges that allow guns and oddly we’ve seen NO shootings there. Of course Mr. Martinez’s son was shot on a College Campus that bans guns…obviously if more places were like where his son was shot dead less people would be shot dead?????

We can’t go too far without Joan. Of course last week she lead with this:

This organization is pushing guns at the rest of us in places where we hang out to shop, learn, eat, work and play ( playgrounds, parks, etc.) but not in their own convention? Come on. I don’t make this stuff up. What are they so afraid of? I thought they loved their guns and loved to carry them around with them everywhere they go. Is it that they aren’t afraid of other people like themselves? Is it that they actually understand that if a whole bunch of gun carriers are walking around in one place, safety will be compromised? It is because someone might get angry at one of the many “illustrious” speakers like Sarah Palin, Jeb Bush, Mike Pence, and others and take a shot? Or what is it? I’d love to know. In addition, they are telling people they will have to pass a background check in order to buy/order guns at the convention and pick them up at a federally licensed firearms dealer near their home. Really? I thought that was terribly inconvenient for these folks.

Hypocrisy as far as the eye can see. There is absolutely no common sense when it comes to the gun lobby’s safety policies for themselves and their total resistance to the same for the rest of us. In fact, there are no loaded guns allowed at gun shows. Occasionally an “accidental” discharge occurs in spite of this safety measure. Like here or this one. Did you know that guns are not allowed for visitors to the NRA headquarters in Fairfax, Virginia? Yes, it’s true. Who don’t they trust? Staff can carry but anyone else, no. So this organization pushes for visitors to schools, malls, hospitals, college campuses, state legislatures. national parks, etc. to carry guns but at their own headquarters? Nope.

Of course she found out that was total crap!

More often than not, I find links to articles to support what I am writing. Occasionally, however, information is not accurate and needs to be updated or corrected. I am writing this to correct what I wrote in my last post. Though it has been difficult to assess with accuracy, it does look like concealed carry permit holders will be allowed to carry guns inside of the Nashville Music Center at the upcoming NRA convention. What I learned from my own sources is that guns are not allowed in the music performance center but are allowed in the convention center attached to it. But one can see why there is confusion because this sentence from the security section about the convention says: ” All guns on the convention floor will be nonoperational, with the firing pins removed.” Seems like that could mean ALL guns on the floor.

But remember, she’s still the biggest, most righteous brain in the room!

So yes, apparently loaded guns will be allowed inside of the Nashville Convention Center if this reader is correct. That should be fun. Hopefully there will be no “accidental” discharges by any of those “good guys” with guns. There was a recent case of this at a gun range in Florida where armed police officers were training. One of the guns accidentally discharged, killing another officer. It happens. Thus one can see why allowing a bunch of armed people in one place could be a very bad idea. But, whatever. It looks like there is no concern for that at NRA conventions. Except all of those guns on display that will be handled by armed folks need to be unloaded. Why? To prevent “accidental discharges”. Hypocrisy.

Yep, the NRA is wrong for letting members carry because a POLICE OFFICER killed another at a training facility. Of course antis pride themselves in knowing NOTHING about guns, and while they claim to be “Gun Safety Advocates” rather than “Gun Banners”, they know nothing about gun safety, except to ban the guns.

You know like Tam’s great safety tip of “Stop Touching It!”. I have guns, and I like guns. When I go to the gun shop, or a gun show I like to handle the guns. Those guns I am always clearing and verifying they are unloaded and clear. At places like the NRA show, you KNOW the guns are disabled. They’re still real guns, and should be handled as such, but it does take a LOT of the stress when people are all around enjoying the guns.

When it comes to the gun in the holster…it’s loaded and ready to go….and it stays in the holster until it is needed, or it’s time for bed. But not only does Joan not understand this, she WON’T understand it, because KNOWING about guns is a taint on her.

And of course there is the new “Big Lie” being pitched by the antis:

This is not rocket science. Stronger gun laws will save lives. There is actually proof that weak laws contribute to more gun deaths and injuries and the proliferation of firearms in America have not saved lives. Americans have been duped by the corporate gun lobby. Slight of hand tactics and slogans have confused the reality and managed to win support from elected leaders and some of the public. As a result, gun deaths have continued unabated and in some places now contribute to more deaths than auto accidents.

And all for profits and power.

Ummm, Joan, answer me this: Is crime going up or down in America? Are gun laws becoming less strict of More strict overall? (hint we have 50 states and DC all with concealed carry laws, and 6 of these states don’t require a permit….also recently the antis did win the Colorado magazine ban, the Connecticut Assault Weapons ban, the Washington background check law, and the New York SAFE act, all of them VERY unpopular, most of them COMPLETELY unenforceable.

Also note that in Joan’s post she likes the Violence Policy Center (again false numbers, as Joan’s Protect Minnesota is controlled by the same foundation as VPC), yet I cite the FBI…who probably know nothing about crime, right?

Who is using “Slight of hand tactics” and “confusing reality” now?

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1 Response to Anti-Gun, Anti-Logic

  1. TS says:

    But one can see why there is confusion because this sentence from the security section about the convention says: ” All guns on the convention floor will be nonoperational, with the firing pins removed.” Seems like that could mean ALL guns on the floor.

    Because “on the floor” is not the same as “in the building”. “On the floor” means on the showroom floor for display.

    In addition, they are telling people they will have to pass a background check in order to buy/order guns at the convention and pick them up at a federally licensed firearms dealer near their home. Really? I thought that was terribly inconvenient for these folks. Hypocrisy as far as the eye can see.

    So… she is saying the NRA are a bunch of hypocrites because they don’t want to openly commit federal felonies in front of hundreds of police officers (and pre advertise the crime on their website)? Whatever, Japete. That’s almost as bad as calling them hypocrites for wanting to follow their own safety rules which they vigorously promote:

    Except all of those guns on display that will be handled by armed folks need to be unloaded. Why? To prevent “accidental discharges”. Hypocrisy.

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