Images of the Antis: Guns and Suicide

**UPDATE** Please stay to the end to read the update below, it blows everything I wrote out of the water!

So the antis have been debating us for too long to not know that of the roughly 33,000 “Gun Deaths” in America every year, 60-70% of those “Gun Deaths” are suicides, the the bulk of these suicides are older adults. They know that background check laws, safe storage laws, magazine bans, gun bans, and any other anti-gun boilerplate isn’t relevant to this issue.

But they NEED dead bodies, their entire agenda is contingent on dead bodies! So they try to conflate that guns cause suicide, and we get this graphic from Bloomberg’s web mouthpiece The Trace.

Ok so first lets just LOOK at the graph! A very nice curve on one side (It should be, they arranged the states intentionally in order) and a raggity mess on the other side! OK, yes the graph is VAGUELY symmetrical….but boy that’s some messy Data! It’s nothing but outliers! There are a TON of states that fall into the “High Gun Ownership” group (especially when you notice that the curve is REALLY flat in the middle…lots of states have very similar gun ownership rates) but have relatively low “Gun Suicide”, Places like The Dakotas, Maine, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan, among others. Why do they have such a low “Gun Suicide Rate” yet have relatively high gun ownership rates? Also look up at the top! Ok Hawaii is fucking HORRIBLE to gun owners, so those numbers are understandably low, and their Suicide rate is low. No shit, its a fucking tropical Island! You feel depressed, smoke some legal weed and go sit on the beach and watch the waves, maybe eat a fresh coconut!

But look at Connecticut and New York, both anti-gun states, and their “Gun Ownership” numbers look approximately the same, but Connecticut has a much higher Suicide rate than New York which is right next door.

And while Massachusetts has the lowest “Gun Suicide” rate, and by my math is the most gun unfriendly state in the country, California is a close Second, and Illinois is in 3rd, those states have a much higher “Gun Suicide” rate….why?

Of course no explanation is given to these wild numbers.

Also how did they get these numbers in the first place? I looked at the references from the cited journal article but I can’t find a clear-cut source on how they determined the “Gun Ownership” number. Further I have some questions about the suicide numbers. So there’s a big spike in Florida, it makes sense, it’s relatively friendly to gun owners, and its a haven for retired persons…which happens to be a huge percentage of the suicides in America. It makes sense, lots of 65+ People and no onerous gun laws you’ll see a higher rate of suicide.

But what about Nevada? I’ve heard, but I don’t have a reference to cite, that Nevada has lots of suicides from tourists. People losing all their money in the casinos, and people having one last hurrah and living it up before punching out. Also there are lots of shooting ranges in Nevada that cater to tourists from gun unfriendly areas, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were more suicides with rental guns from people who planned a last vacation. So are those “Gun Suicides” all from the gun owners in the corresponding categories?

What about when your local drug dealer offs himself rather than going back to prison? Is owning a stolen gun counted as “Gun Ownership”? Certainly the suicide still counts.

And then there’s the numbers themselves. Look, Gun ownership is in Percent (per 100 for those who don’t speak Latin) and the suicide is per 100,000!

Think about that! Even if Bloomberg had a perfect 1-to-1 ratio (which he doesn’t) that would mean that firearms only CAUSE suicide in 1% of those who own them. Given that this data set is VERY questionable both on its correlation between guns and “Gun Suicides” and its methods of just determining these numbers, a 1% correlation would still likely be statistically insignificant to draw any conclusions on. And they don’t have even those worthless numbers in the first place.

Also the data is further garbage because the overall implication is that SUICIDE is bad, not just “Gun Suicide”. This is the whole point to the “Gun Death” unit, it’s an artificial variable that is implied to be a number we all think about. Lower “Gun Death” is applied to mean it has a lower death rate in general, same here with this “Gun Suicide” number, it implies that a low “Gun Suicide” number is a low suicide number.

That isn’t the case. Doing a quick look, but not running a statistical analyses there is a correlation in those numbers, but hardly a clean one. The bottom line is while nation-wide 50% of the suicides are by firearm, in places like Massachusetts with the lowest “Gun Suicide” rate that isn’t the case (PDF)

Firearms were only used in 24% of the suicide deaths by males, and 11% by Females. That’s a MASSIVE deviation from the national numbers, so while Massachusetts is below average in Suicide numbers in total, this data does point out that suicide will be replaced by another method if a gun is not available.

So their overall implication is that if we reduce the number of guns in civilian hands we will reduce suicide, and that just isn’t true. Also when you note that they are pushing for reduction in gun ownership numbers, while they heap high praise on Australia and the UK, we can guess what their proposed methods might be.

**UPDATE** Ok, I hadn’t read the whole study Bloomberg referenced, and boy I should have before I put pen to paper! This is from the Methods of the study I linked above:

The main predictor variable was the prevalence of household firearm ownership. Because no annual survey assessed the level of household firearm ownership in all 50 states during the entire study period, we used a well-established proxy: the percentage of suicides committed with a firearm (firearm suicides divided by all suicides, or FS/S). This measure has been extensively validated in the literature13,14,32,37,44,50–54 and has been determined to be the best proxy available of many that have been tested.50 The ratio of firearm suicides to all suicides has been shown to correlate highly with survey measures of household firearm ownership,13,14,32,36,50–54 including state-specific measures of firearm ownership,36,50 and has been used extensively as a proxy for state-specific gun availability in previous studies.32,34–37,39,43,44,54–56

So get that? They are looking at the correlation of gun ownership rates and “gun suicide”, and they determine gun ownership by the number of gun suicides the state has! This isn’t a study variable, it’s a positive feedback loop! It’s almost amazing that the graph above isn’t perfectly symetrical!

More here.

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Assorted Calibers Podcast Update

So time for another big update!

First up you will all be able to hear the show soon. We have episode one done, episode two will be done this week, and the podcast has a home!

We have a website (At the time of my typing it’s totally empty, I need to get to that) we have a facebook group which you might even already be following as Sean gave Erin and I the keys to the old Gunblog Variety Cast group and we renamed it.

So we’re almost there, and thanks to all for your patience!

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Retro Gamer…or Just Old Gamer

So this morning I was taking a Survey for an upcoming Game Theory Youtube Video. If you’re interested in video games, and specifically more of an inside baseball on games, both in their writing as well as the game theory behind why they are fun, give the channel a look. Further, if you’re a gamer and have like 10 mins, take the survey too, because more data points is better data.

Still this got me thinking, a friend recently built me a Raspberry Pi powered Retropi box and I was playing some games from my youth over the weekend. But the most recent game I bought was Super Mario 3D World as something to enjoy during the break between The Gunblog Variety Cast and the full production of the new Assorted Calibers Podcast. So while I bought that game just a few months ago, it was released in November of 2013, making it nearly 5 years old (and almost the same age as my daughter, which should explain why I didn’t buy it when it first came out).

Hilariously on that Game Theory survey I gave Nethack which is a totally truthful statement. But that’s not the funny part, despite being created in 1987 and not having graphics, Version 3.6 was released in December of 2015 making Nethack the most modern game I play regularly.

So do I just love the classics, or am I an old Dog who really isn’t interested in new tricks?

Either way I know how to have fun!

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Hangun Radio Live

We’ll be talking about handguns we maybe need to give a second chance and Youtube Anti-gun Fuckery…..on Youtube, this might be interesting.

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MASSIVE Podcast Update: The Assorted Calibers Podcast

Ok some of you might have already heard this, but the new podcast almost has its first episode.

The show name is The Assorted Calibers Podcast (Brilliantly Abbreviated as ACP).

As I type this I have the first episode all edited, cut, and balanced, and last night I watched some great videos on how to add the official show music to it exactly how I want to to be added.

There are a few more steps after this before we’re ready for our full launch, but things are going well.

In this first episode we will have Erin talking about Florida SB 7026, I will do an Audio Fisk of Trevor Noah of the Daily Show, Savage1R will talk about the Origins of Bitcoins, and Erin will interview me on my transition from anti-gunner to pro-gunner.

Of course we will keep you all posted going forward, and we thank you all who have been giving us support for both your kind words and encouragement, as well as you patience.

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Geeks Gadgets and Guns: Kinda Live

We did it live over facebook, but I don’t know how to link that, but you can see the full audio and video of the show here:

A bit more squirrely than most as it was just Matt and I, but I always love being on that show.

Also their channel needs subscribers, and they produce cool content so if you like this stuff, click that subscribe button on Youtube!

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Handgun Radio Live

Tonight we’re having Justin Opinion on to talk about his gun reviews.

Come and join us!

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Fudd Virtue Signaling

So Walmart and Dicks in the wake of the recent shooting in Florida have decided to discontinue the sale of Modern Sporting Rifles and make all firearms sales to 21+, same with LL Bean.

Well Beans has never sold anything as “Modern” as an AR-15 (designed in 1959, but I guess that’s “Modern”), and really they make their bones selling Woman’s Clothing, so ANY action to their gun department, even up to axing the whole thing, won’t make a dent in business.

Dick’s and Walmart are even sillier. Dick’s decided that modern guns were evil and wouldn’t sell them anymore after Sandy Hook, but I guess after all that sturm and drang, they quietly restocked the shelves with the guns Americans ACTUALLY want.

I’m not sure about Wal-Mart, but they too started stocking ARs, and then dumped them. I do know that when buying ammo Wal-Mart asks you if you are buying for a Pistol or a Rifle, and if that box of .22 is for a revolver, and not a carbine, suddenly you need to be 21. Either way this doesn’t change much, but I bet they feel GREAT about it.

And likely once the dust settles they’ll bring the guns back quietly, and pretend nothing happened.

I won’t know because I hate all of them, and have since long before any of that shit started. Circa 2000 I was in the Maine Mall doing other things, but I knew I would be going shooting in the next few days with a buddy who owned guns (I didn’t own a single gun at the time) and I thought I’d buy a few boxes of .45 at Dicks so I could get my 1911 on in a sand pit.

I went to the gun counter and found it deserted. I looked around a little bit, and waited, and waited….and finally I left. They didn’t want my business, So I didn’t give it to them. Wal-Mart is similar, generally you get to the gun counter and everything is locked up, and you need to wait for a sales associate who knows that selling guns isn’t the same as selling a folding camp chair, or even a Six-pack of cold beer, but he doesn’t know HOW it’s different, and he’ll make you regret buying that box of 9mm the WHOLE time.

LL Bean, I’ve been to their gun counter….and found it is NOT for me, no plinking ammo, no handguns, no modern rifles. No issue, just I’m not your base.

So yeah, good on them, they’re big fucking heroes.

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Play Me Out: Frogleap Studios

This cover rocks so hard. I can’t stop listening to it!

Rock Out!

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Another Interesting Local Story

New Hampshire Store owner will no longer serve Republicans:

DERRY — A store that fixes Apple products in Derry says it will not serve Republicans.

The Used Apple Store posted to its Facebook page on Monday that the company will refuse services to those affiliated with the Republican party.

While Derry is in Southern New Hampshire, it’s still a area that has quite a few Republicans. Honestly I could care less that he wants to do this. I’m not a Republican, but it’s a really stupid move, and somebody who is that stupid will likely do something stupid things, so I would withhold my business.

That being said there’s this:

If you affiliate with the Republican Party you are not welcome into our store. We will not offer you service. If you come in anyway, I suppose you could sneak in but we will probably know. In fact, we can point out a Republican just from the way you look in person or in a photo. Once I tried doing this and realized I could. We put to a test and told 30 random people that we were guessing Republican or not and all 30 I was correct. You have an uptight, closed energy, negative aura to you… almost evil, and to be honest, usually evil. You also lack a psychic gateway to technology.

That sounds like straight up psychosis, and a psychosis that is applying “Evil” to approximately half of this country. I try to avoid people who are having a psychotic episode, and certainly one that might confuse me with somebody who is “evil” and out to do him harm is not a recipe for safety.

So thanks for warning us, bucky….oh and Southern New Hampshire Democrats, beware because you never know when you might be mistaken for a Republican Pod Person trying to steal his precious bodily fluids. Stay away!

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