A money quote from Brady Campaing Board Member and Joyce foundation worker Joan Peterson
It’s just natural to want to shoot someone when you don’t agree with them or have a beef or you’re drunk and can’t quite think straight. It’s just natural to allow 30,000 victims of gun violence to occur every year in the U.S. We should just accept the natural order of things then.
If only owning a gun was as illegal as shooting somebody because you’re angry or impaired, then we wouldn’t have so many deaths in this country.
I love how the Pro-Ignorance Anti-Freedom people have this weird Schrodinger’s Cat relationship with the law. The law is simultaneously all-powerful and unrepeatable (if we ban private sales and “Assault Weapons” bad people simply won’t be able to get them because its illegal) and worthless (Obviously if people have access to guns they’ll rape and pillage and plunder without reservation, or fear of the law…)
Much like the “Guns in Bars” argument. If the restriction is lifted then people will pile into bars with lawfully carried guns and get illegally intoxicated with little fear of the law….but if the restrictions are upheld, nobody will dare enter a bar or restaurant with a gun lest they be paralyzed with fear about breaking the law.
These are not rational or honest people, and you can’t compromise or rationalize with them because they simply don’t operate on the same mental level as functional people.
We simply must crush them and their bigoted movement, and leave them in the same place in history of other bigots like segregationists, and the temperance movement.
No Joan, it isn’t just natural. It is taught by a very limited subset of the population to use that level of violence to try to solve problems.
Either you are lying or you are projecting your own mentality onto the whole of society. So, which is it Joan?
The proof is evident in the number — 50 to 80 million gun owners and yet the totality of firearm related violent crime is less than 500,000 acts a year. Isn’t it common sense to say that only a few people have the problem you describe?
I actually am finding her posts and especially her comments to be educational. I never took Logic, you see, and it’s nice to have all the Formal Fallacies trotted out, one after another.
And its nice to have them trotted out by a vetted member of a national gun control group rather than some cellar-dweller troll.
I can now see why Robb gave up in frustration.
“It’s just natural to allow 30,000 victims of gun violence to occur every year in the U.S. We should just accept the natural order of things then.”
No, dingbat, there are 30,000 victims of “gunviolence” every year because you have your fingers jammed so far into your ears that they’re touching in the middle. Even though we have nothing to do with those suicides and homicides, we’ve offered plenty of helpful suggestions for identifying the vectors of human depravity. The problem is that they don’t happen to be weapons, and the anti-liberty movement squanders millions in taxpayer funds attacking gun symbolism and offering meaningless statistics as a false metric of progress.
Wanting to do something is not the same thing as actually doing it. Wanting to shoot someone is not a crime.
The justice (hah!) system can’t punish people for thought crime (yet, anyway), only actual crime.
Of course, this is just exploiting the notorious “I didn’t actually do anything except think about it loophole,” and Congress should take care of that as soon as possible.
And half of those “victims” are people who decided to kill themselves….
More than half. And of that 40% a few are justifiable homicides (like our pal in Florida) there are a handfull of accidents, but that’s on a sharp decline, and of course of that number about 90% are creeps like the jerk in Florida who are violating countless gun and societal laws, I suspect any of Joan’s bullshit will do jack and shit for those assholes, unless you start working on the PEOPLE problem, not the tool.
there are more car deaths a year then gun deaths, furthermore there are more guns in this country then cars but I do not see you attacking the car industry, perhaps your time would be better spent trying to do something helpful instead of fighting to take someones right, like I don’t know finding a cure for cancer which kills more people then guns.
Did she really say this: “It’s just natural to want to shoot someone when you don’t agree with them”
Because she disagrees with a lot of people and she admits to owning guns. Sounds threatening.
“t’s just natural to want to shoot someone when you don’t agree with them or have a beef ”
her words, and still up on her blog.
Good point, she owns guns. But I think she believes she’ll calm down before she gets the keys to the safe, and goes and tracks down the ammo (given that her hubby is a hunter and she’s a gun banner, I’d bet there isn’t a scap of ammo in the house except for the week before hunting season and its all disposed of at the close…or maybe its at a hunting camp or buddy’s house)
I have a gun right at my side…she thinks if I get upset with you I’ll just blow your brains out without even thinking twice.
Nice huh?
Yep. typical. “Why are anti-gunners so violent?”
She may be a crazy, emotional, potentially violent wreck. I however am not.
IMO, the quote is taken out of context, and those are not her words, per se. They are the words that she is attributing to imaginary “gun guys on my blog” — she is writing in a sarcastic sense. Full quote:
Sometimes I think I’ve heard it all since being involved in the movement to prevent gun injuries and deaths. I should know better. There are some pretty inane arguments offered by the gun guys on my blog. Elected officials are not immune from inane comments either. Here is one such example from the Fargo, N.D. City Council. So now gun rights are “natural”? What exactly does that mean? Trees, grass, flowers, clouds, etc. are natural and part of nature. That’s where the word comes from. But guns? Why not? It’s just natural to want to shoot someone when you don’t agree with them or have a beef or you’re drunk and can’t quite think straight. It’s just natural to allow 30,000 victims of gun violence to occur every year in the U.S. We should just accept the natural order of things then. We should just accept that it’s natural to carry guns around in public places.
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