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Modern day guns should not malf like this!
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That’s kinda too bad, I thought the RFB looked kinda neat. Granted, I have never handled or fired one, si the moment I picked one up I might’ve changed my mind immediately anyway.
They keep having neat ideas that are poorly implemented (like the KSG).
I’ve generally been unhappy with Wolf ammo in my FAL, couple that with a bad gun…
Instant cure for low blood pressure!
Kel-Tec are the masters of making guns I want to like, but not delivering a gun I can.
i am having some pretty significant issues with frel-tec too… the company as a whole (and their “special” business practices). suffice to say i am surprised they can tie their own shoes- but a million monkeys, a million typewriters, they may get one gun that actually functions. someday.
I realize that I may end up sounding like a Kel-Tec fangirl here, but don’t you think it’s just a little bit hyperbolic to say that the entire company makes garbage?
I’ve not shot the RFB myself, but I’ve talked to those that have, and they agree that it has issues. Okay. Maybe the RFB is crap. But I own two other KT guns, and haven’t had any issues with the performance of either of them.
I’ll make sure my contact at KT sees the video. Maybe they can bring this gentleman some satisfaction.
They headline is BORDERLINE hyperbolic, as it doesn’t clarify the scope of the term “Garbage”, I am not implying Kel-Tec makes NOTHING but garbage, but indeed many of their items because of poorly engineered designs and bad quality control, many are.
Guns like their micro-pistols or the PMR 30 seem to be exactly what they should be; Inexpensive guns. They work, and are of decent design, and function right where they’re priced. If I find a Sub2000 that eats from mags available to me, I’m buying one, as they seem like nothing but solid guns, and I highly recommend them. The tragedy of that gun is that you can’t simply walk into any gun shop in the nation and find half a dozen on them on the racks…or even a single unit.
Guns like the RFB and the KSG don’t seem to be inspiring ANY confidence. All I hear is horror stories, and their price points don’t seem to impress me either.
The truly frightening thing is they send out guns they know are going to be reviewed that fail immediately.
You’d think they’d put a few mags of the shittiest ammo they can find through it just to make sure that it will shine for a gun writer to gush over and give a glowing review.
I can’t believe they keep developing new guns when their current models are hard as hell to find, as Weerd noted.
You’ll get no argument from me on that. Their production “bandwidth,” for lack of a better term, is terrible. They’re a 300 BPS modem in a broadband world.
Kel-Tec survives mainly because of their price point. They embody Jeff Cooper’s judgment of the Charter Arms Bulldog .44 Special: an excellent idea egregiously executed.
My son’s P3AT bit the dust after he fired the second magazine through it. I told him to go with the LCP. He didn’t like the trigger on the LCP and the P3AT’s failed. Oh the impetuousness of youth.. Of course, he also was bought a Taurus revolver against my advice. Its’ trigger broke on the same range trip. Now he wants my S&W 66-1 6 incher. I told him something to the effect of “from my cold dead fingers”. He’s been cooking me a lot of bacon and eggs for breakfast lately. He’s such a loving son 🙂
Is he also buying you fine cigars? Telling you not to worry, he can afford it if you smoke nine or ten a day?
What concerns me the most is that a reviewer – a person any company with any sense wants to provide the most pleasant and seamless experience to – can’t get hold of their customer service.
As for their products, well, I’m very happy with my P3AT, but I understand they do have a reputation for a somewhat… lax QC process, and that many of their more innovative products have widespread issues for the first couple of years of production. It sounds like the RFB may need some tweaking (that should have been done before it was put into production, but see my previous sentence), but this could be just a bad example of the line.
I’ll also say that, given my one experience with Wolf ammo, I might sneak it into my worst enemy’s magazines, but I sure as heck wouldn’t fire it in anything I own.
It’s hard to even tell if a defect is just a fluke or bad QC because our sample size is so small lol
freltec shipped to me with no paperwork at all (like their FFL)
it took 8 calls to reach anyone at freltec.
then they shipped a second, unsolicited, and accused me of trying to steal it from them – and i cannot get them to even take it back.
miserable experience all around.
As I’ve said before, I really want to like Kel-Tec’s products. I think just about every one of their guns is a neat idea. Unfortunately, when I pick one up at the store, I just get this overwhelming feeling that it was made for the toy aisle at Walmart. Couple that with their seeming inability to get anything but their tiny pocket pistols to the store fronts in reasonable number, and I probably won’t be owning one any time soon.