Even if the lie is paper-thin:
Raise your hand if you think this is a great idea. Raise your hand if you want to send your own students to NRA University. The specious and unsupportable claim in the video that college campuses are places that encourage anti-gun thought is part of the NRA propaganda. If you don’t agree with the NRA, then you are the enemy. Never mind the facts. Does anyone remember the Aurora shooting? Does anyone remember that the shooter was a severely mentally ill college student? Does anyone remember Virginia Tech? Does anyone remember that Cho was a mentally ill college student? Does anyone remember the Northern Illinois University shooting? Students should be studying, enjoying friendships, preparing for a future and perhaps working. They shouldn’t be thinking about guns. Though campus shootings are big news and usually are mass shootings, they are rare. The chance of being shot on campus is much less than in the home or on the streets of our community. Mass shootings get a lot of attention as well they should. But 32 Americans a day die from gun homicides and many more from accidental discharges and suicides. Putting more guns in the hands of young adults will also increase the chances of using that gun off campus as well in gun homicides, suicides and accidents.
There are ways to survive a mass shooting without a gun. Virginia Tech survivor Colin Goddard was just plain lucky. He has said over and over that a gun in the Virginia Tech shooting would not have changed the outcome. His cell phone call actually alerted law enforcement to the location of the shooter and within minutes of his call, Cho shot himself as police approached the scene. Here is an article about what to do in case of a shooter on campus.
Yeah, so Joan’s against campus carry and “Proves” its a bad idea by citing massacres where campus carry is bad! (BTW for fun, you can read this post where Joan confronts what happens when spree shooters come to schools where the students and staff have guns)
She also cites the bullshit 20/20 piece that was SHREDDED here.
Its like they aren’t even trying!
Remember, guns are bad, because they are bad! 8)
They shouldn’t be thinking about guns.
Unless they’re in ROTC, where they think about guns and war and such on a weekly bases, and once a month they have a Field Training Exercise where they are routinely handed dummy rifles as they tromp through the woods.
Go on, Joan, say you’re against ROTC. Say you’re against a program that not only produces officers for the military, but one of the largest sources of college scholarships out there.
Go on, say you’re anti-military. We already know that you are, we just want you to admit it.
The “Progressive ” schools have been running ROTC off campus for decades now.
The “Love the troops, hate the war” lie was exposed pretty early on for them.
Hell, now that a Democrat is invading foreign lands, its “Hate the soldier, love the war!”
We can also take the preceding sentence:
“Students should be studying, enjoying friendships, preparing for a future and perhaps working.”
Heaven forbid that “students” have a study, friendship, future, or work that involves guns.
Such as studying ballistics, metallurgy, military history, or even gunsmithing itself.
Of course Joan loathes recreational shooting and hunting (unless it’s the right things).
And what about “students” that like Erin said are in ROTC? Or are police ? Do they get the only ones exception?
As for working and future, well she loathes the idea of guns, let alone people making careers out of the field.
No, to her, “students” are a special coddled class of children that need the steady hand of wise overseerers. These people aren’t adults, they’re “students”. Their fluffy little heads shouldn’t be thinking about such scary and weighty things.
Also gotta love that her example of “Ways to survive a mass shooting without a gun” require you to first and foremost be “just plain lucky.”
Gotcha. Now I know luck is a large part of life, but I’d rather not count on it right outta the gate.
And then she praises to high heavens such stellar advice as: Call the Cops.
And: Hope the bad-guy kills himself before he finds you.
Gee why would anyone want to carry a gun instead of taking such sage wisdom as that?
I’d never seen the rebuttal against the 20/20 report, but it’s awesome!
Hindsight sees “20/20” (no pun intended), but if I find myself in that situation and I’m the one with the handgun, I’d be inclined to ask someone else to trade sweatshirts and seats. If I’m not, I’d ask the one who is.
Just to make it more realistic than a fixed “the shooter knows who’s armed ahead of time” game. 🙂
yeah the 20/20 piece was a disaster, they took a scenario that has NEVER happened EVER (a well-trained and sane active shooter) and gave him EVERY possible advantage over the LONE defender. And they gave the defender every disadvantage, the biggest was marking him for death right away, but also giving them massive cheap T-shirts as concealment over a 12:00 holster.
And of course the shooter was a police trainer, and the defenders were college students who’d never handled a gun before in their lives.
20/20 thought up a scenario, and did all they could to make it happen.