Reloding Bleg Pt. II

Thanks to Wally (How’d I know you’d offer the winning clue) I went to the manufactuer’s website:

When loading for these bullets, you need to use data that will attain 800 fps as a minimum. Most of the data for this bullet weight was created using a dead soft lead projectile with velocities under the 800 fps and will not work for a this bullet at those lower velocities.

According to my manual, The load I was using was clocking around 750 FPS. That’s pleasantly in the danger zone. Now for REALLY good news there is a Blue Dot load that boasts 810FPS, and a titegroup load that starts around there and maxes out at just over 900.

So I might play around with the blue dot load, but give titegroup the old college try when I get around to getting some of it!

Thanks Wally!

One more question before I go. People talk about seating wadcutters flush with the case mouth, does that make much of a difference with a revolver load? I’ve been loading mine with just a few mm of bullet sticking up above the case mouth, should I be seating them lower?

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0 Responses to Reloding Bleg Pt. II

  1. Wally says:

    I lurve my blue dot, it is my favorite pistol powder. I run it in 380, 9mm, 38super, 357sig, and 223 subsonic – but have never tried it in 38 special.

    As to depth, flush with the case mouth allows for crimping without deforming the side of the bullet. Also, since you are typically using light charges, less available capacity should reduce the possibility of a double charge. I would have no hesitation to try a 38spl seated out of the case – just be smart and use sound reloading practices, work up to it, small batches with small changes, etc.

    BTW chronos are an outstanding tool. Hit the range yesterday with my buddy and his handloads. 10 shot string ranged from 1020FPS to 1225FPS. I think that means something is unhappy!

  2. Wally says:

    ETA : I have run tons of Berrys in 9mm, it is the choice bullet for my 635. But the Berrys are NOT soft by any means.

    • Weerd Beard says:

      Yeah, I’m really happy with the bullets….just a bit dismayed at the difficulty finding load data. But I suspect these peppier loads might work out well.

      • Wally says:

        This is a 38sp wadcutter in a wheelgun. If you can get it out the muzzle, it will do fine 🙂

        I am thinking about bringing the chrnoy to the blogshoot.

        • Weerd Beard says:

          Well not if its berry’s hard-ass-plated wadcutters going under 800 FPS. You can get them going for much of the day….then the copper fouling puts the brakes on them. And when that happens its a special kind of stuck….

  3. Thomas says:

    I like 4064 for launching .375 caliber pistol bullets for lighter loadings…oops, this is a .357 thread isn’t it 🙂
    But 75 grains of 4064 is “peppy” in a pistol.

    In your case, I’d probably use a handful of grains of 231 or Bullseye. but opinions are like…

    • Weerd Beard says:

      heh, I remember reading something about the hard kick of a “.357 Magnum” rifle. I found that to be a VERY odd story given that as far as handgun rounds .357 Mag is very much “Mid Range” if not lower depending on where you draw the lines.

      Then I realized I was reading a little to fast and the story was about a “.375 H&H Magnum”. That’s what dyslexia will get you!

      • Thomas says:

        It also got me the award for loudest handgun EVER FIRED at the indoor range, BEATING the .460Wby Magnum pistol that’s really a Dakota bolty a guy built as a pistol, as I have more efficient, and therefore LOUDER, muzzle porting. I’ve still never shot the .458 Lott pistol inside anywhere and hope not to. I wear E.A.R. plugs underneath Walker Game Muffs for both 🙂

        Truthfully though, the Lott, loaded like a hot .45-70 with 350 grainers is a hell of a lot more pleasant to shoot than snubby .357s and +P .38s zipping out 125s. The 18.5″ barrel, weight, and porting do a lot to moderate things and it’s more “shove” than “wrist break”. Hot .357s loads always feel like they’re “snapping” my wrists, which is why I’ve always liked .41s and .45s better in higher powered “real” handgun rounds. I think I like the .41Rem better than any other handgun cartridge ever invented if you aren’t sticking rifle cartridges in handguns. It’s just a good balance of all the factors you’d want in a handgun. I realize it’s not automagic friendly, but then we’re back to “if you need more than a couple of rounds and aren’t in a war, maybe you should be looking for escape”. Be nice if they weren’t all loading gate guns, though, as using speedloaders wouldn’t hurt. That might be my next project after the .303 pistol…making a non-loading gate .41…It’s a thought.

        Personal bigotry.

      • Thomas says:

        One other bigotry. .375H&H Mag has a hard shove in a rifle, but it’s nothing at all like any of Roy’s bastard shoulder-breakers. Recoil velocity has more to do with what’s tolerable than recoil energy to me. Chuck Hawks wrote a nice article about that a while back. I find shooting Springfields, SMLEs, and Naggers less comfortable than my .338s and bigger in rifle form. More wearing on me over the course of a range day. And some of my Big bores have checkered steel butt plates…

        Recoil energy and velocity and the pressure curve during barrel time all have an influence on what is and isn’t fun to shoot all day. Shoot a .460 Wby and a .458 Lott and see which one makes you wince. it won’t be the Lott.

        • Weerd Beard says:

          One reason why I really REALLY dig on .45 ACP, big bullet, big energy, but low recoil impulse, so it FEELS smaller than it is.

          BTW I learned to shoot rifles on Old Roy’s Shoulder Breakers! That might explain somthing. : ]

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