Yes He Called You That

So I guess Virginia is well on its way to scrapping one-gun-a-month.

he vote on Senate Bill 323, sponsored by Sen. Charles W. Carrico Sr., R-Grayson, was 8-6, with Sen. John S. Edwards, D-Roanoke, voting for passage with seven Republicans. Sen. Thomas K. Norment, Jr., R-James City, who was not present at the time of the vote, was recorded as abstaining. The vote came during a marathon five-hour meeting in which lawmakers took up a series of gun bills.

The repeal measure has strong support in the Republican-dominated House of Delegates, and Gov. Bob McDonnell has indicated he is inclined to sign the bill.

Awesome. Still my jaw dropped when I read this:

“The only group that this law currently prohibits is gun traffickers,” said gun-control advocate Andrew Goddard, father of Virginia Tech shooting survivor Colin Goddard. “Getting rid of the only law we have on the books … is not going to make that problem go away.”

Josh Horwitz of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence said the concern was not the purchaser of a couple of handguns during a month, but the “huge, bulk, multiple sales” of guns.

Have you ever bought more than one handgun inside of a month? I sure have. That makes you a “Gun Trafficker” because Virginia’s stupid handgun law would make you a Criminal, and if it only effects gun traffickers. Mr. Goddard is the type of person only anti-gunners would want to associate with.

Also note the shaky ground Josh Horwitz is on pointing out that if you buy two or three guns inside of a month you really aren’t the problem they’re talking about…but you should still be charged with a crime.

BTW when have we heard Mr. Horwitz or Mr. Goddard speak out against Fast and Furious where our government was working directly with the Mexican Drug Cartels selling bulk purchases of firearms to known criminals using US Tax dollars?

Yeah, I’m so happy to see your horrible laws being trashed!

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0 Responses to Yes He Called You That

  1. Thirdpower says:

    Horwitz HAS talked about F&F. They blame the NRA. I kid you not. Goddard is to warped to even speak coherently anymore.

  2. Sailorcurt says:

    It’s a classic case of “bait and switch”…they insist that this law is designed to curb gun traffickers and even go so far as to say things like:

    Josh Horwitz of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence said the concern was not the purchaser of a couple of handguns during a month, but the “huge, bulk, multiple sales” of guns.

    But when you ask them, as I have many times, “if that’s really your concern, then why does the law prohibit more than one gun per month. Why not make it one a day? Or one a week? or even 2 a month? If your goal is only to stop bulk purchases, then why isn’t the law directed specifically at bulk purchases”.

    You know how they respond to that?

    The bottom line is that they lie about their intentions and that’s why we can never give them an inch. The fact that the media STILL just quotes them unquestioningly without raising these questions indicates to me that they are still, as an institution, firmly in the anti-rights camp. We’ve gained great ground in the past decade or so, but we’ve still got a long way to go.

  3. Sailorcurt says:

    Sorry, here’s what it was supposed to say:

    You know how they respond to that?


    The bottom line is…

    I unthinkingly put the “crickets” in actual tag style brackets instead of square brackets, which meant that it was interpreted as unknown HTML code and was not printed.


  4. Newbius says:

    Also, the law currently exempts Virginia Concealed Carry Permit holders. I can go in and buy 20 handguns right now if I had the cash and the inclination to do so.

    This law is another solution in search of a problem, and was prompted initially in response to the New York lawsuits against Virginia’s gun store owners. Our gun stores were never the problem, but the deal made the vultures up north go away.

  5. Bubblehead Les says:

    Funny. The DemaCommies pushed ObamaCare down the throats of the Republic, and one of their Lame Excuses is that the Federales have the RIGHT to make everyone buy Health Insurance under the Commerce Clause because it “Saves Lives.”

    Okay, then under that Logic, they should force everyone to buy Firearms because they “Save Lives.” And the 2nd Amendment is a lot clearer than the Commerce Clause, especially after Heller and McDonald.

    Sauce for the Goose, sauce for the Gander.

  6. WallPhone says:

    I found something quite odd while researching this law. Supporters claim prior to the law, 20-40% of trafficked guns to NYC came from Virginia, and that the law’s signing brought the Virginia porportion down by half.

    What the JAMA article doesn’t explain is how the number decreased by half while the average time to first police trace (Time to Crime is a misnomer) is more than a decade.

    Dave Kopel has an explanation.

    See Memorandum from the BATF on Firearm Stastical Information For Calendar Year 1992 to Special Agent in Charge of the New York Field Division (Oct. 22, 1992). (hereinafter Firearms Statistical Information) (on file with the author). One reason that traces from Virginia were so high was that BATF was conducting a special investigation into firearms trafficking from Virginia to New York. Thus, when a Virginia gun store would call BATF to report a suspicious sale possibly headed for New York, BATF would advise the store to go ahead with the sale. Later, when the gun-runners were arrested in New York, the gun would be traced back to Virginia. See BATF Agent Irvin W. Moran, Affidavit before U.S. Magistrate David G. Lowe (Aug. 25, 1992); Letter from John W. Magaw, Director, BATF, to Sen. Olympia J. Snowe (Feb. 23, 1996). In ordinary circumstances, the guns never would have been sold; if they had been sold, they would not have been specially selected for tracing.

    The ATF coerced otherwise null sales, inflating trafficking statistics later used in support of increased gun control? How do you make a foil hat again?

    • Pyrotek85 says:

      Since the Fast and Furious scandal, I’ve been hearing rumors that they’ve been running small scale versions all over the place. Looks like there is truth to it, unfortunately.

  7. Greg Camp says:

    I haven’t bought more than one handgun a month, but I did buy a SMLE No. 4 Mk. I, took it to the range, and loved it so much that I went back to the store that day to buy the SMLE with a scope to complement the first one. Clearly, I’m a danger to the nation.

    This raises a point. As the Box O’Truth site reminds us, rifles are rifles and handguns are handguns. Why doesn’t the law limit long guns as well? I know, it’s harder to conceal a long gun, unless you’re the D.C. sniper.

  8. McThag says:

    Hey, Colin! Remember that guy you were hiding from? Under the desk?

    Yeah, with one gun a month he still managed to have two guns. That law helped save how many of the 32 victims?

    Gorram’d idiots! They’re never going to figure out our objections to these stupid laws aren’t so we can shoot more but rather because they impede the law abiding and create inconvenience for honest, peaceable people while at the same time doing nothing to thwart the actions of those intent on doing harm.

    They don’t understand that their laws will never have the intended effect on evil. We do; that’s why we carry.

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