This one is just a multi-tiered level of discussion:
So first up we have a variant of “Gun Death” with their “In-Person Voter Fraud”, but also what a false dichotomy there! First up Guns in America are big piles of paperwork with pieces of steel attached to them, even in the most gun friendly states guns can only be manufactured for public consumption by licensed FFLs, they put every gun they make in great detail into their books, then those guns can only be sold to other FFLs who again record the guns in their books. The guns get recorded again when they are sold either to new FFLs (rinse and repeat) or to private citizens. After that the citizen doesn’t need to deal with another FFL, but that gun is now heavily papered by this point.
Then we have homicides. Do you think many homicides go unnoticed? Pretty hard to make somebody dead without SOMEBODY noticing that they aren’t alive anymore. Now SOLVING those homicides are a little more tricky, especially if the departed had some involvement with the gang system, but that isn’t relevant to this system. While not all homicides are solved, damn near all of them are RECORDED.
Now let’s look at “In Person Voter Fraud”, somebody who legally can’t vote, or who has otherwise already voted strolls into a polling place with no Voter ID requirement. All they need to do is give out a name and an address. This could be for an infirm relative, or maybe somebody who isn’t in the country, or in many cases somebody who’s dead. Hell back when the ACORN scandal was in high gear people were noting that 100% fake people were being registered to vote. A lot of nay-sayers scoffed at this since those fake people didn’t exist…but without voter ID how would you know? They could walk in, claim a ballot, vote and walk out, and even move on to the next polling place and vote again!
Now there are no cameras or recording devices at these polling place, and somebody’s dead Granny isn’t going to complain if her vote gets stolen, and further if the name is on the registered voting lists it’s LEGAL! So how are you going to tell if somebody is legitimately voting or not? Only once the election is over and the ballots are tallied can it be seen if dead people, or fake people voted, and even then with our secret ballot system, what are you going to do?
Just because so few people have been CAUGHT doesn’t mean people aren’t doing it.
And of course comes the last part. You have the right to keep and bear arms (and note that for any newly made gun that gun can ONLY get into the public with an valid ID, and given that selling guns across state lines is a serious crime, you’ll be hard pressed to find a private seller selling to a stranger without valid photo ID being exchanged) you don’t have the right to vote. There are laws that say who and when you can vote, but no law that says we need to vote at all.
Further the idea that there are registered and active voters out there who don’t have at least ONE form of valid ID is laughable. You can’t EXIST in society without State ID. Sure many people don’t drive, but if they need to buy booze or cigarettes SOMEBODY is going to card them. Do they fly, take the bus, or train? Photo ID required. Check into a hotel room? Show some ID. Open a bank account or try to pay with a Check? Can I see some ID? The list goes on!
It’s also not expensive unless the state in question (like Mine) has decided to pile on the fees out of greed. There has been some talk that immigrants who were born in other countries might have difficulties getting a birth certificate for ID…but if they’re immigrants they already had to do all that. ILLEGAL immigrants don’t have to, but they shouldn’t be able to vote.
Sorry but every case of Voter Fraud I’ve ever read about were from die-hard “Progressive” Democrats who HATE the 2nd Amendment, and this is the reason why so many people who are anti-gun want “universal background checks” but hate the idea of voter ID laws.
