How Laws Work

I found this story through the anti-gun channels.

Deer Park police said a man broke a new Ohio law, among others, after pulling a gun inside a bar.

They are of course outraged that Ohio has now made it legal to carry in restaurants with liquor licenses, even tho it is still illegal for those people to drink. But here’s the story and where its going:

As the argument became heated and verbal threats were exchanged, O’Reilly allegedly brandished a handgun and threatened to kill the other man, police said…Police said O’Reilly is a concealed carry permit holder. A new Ohio law that went into effect Sept. 30 gives CCW permit holders the right to carry firearms inside as bars and restaurants, but they are not allowed to consume alcohol while doing so. O’Reilly had been drinking, police said.

O’Reilly was charged with aggravated menacing, violating CCW laws, ethnic intimidation and possession of a schedule III controlled substance. He is being held at the Hamilton County Justice Center pending a bond hearing.

This is an ugly scene, and I’m not sure exactly how it went down, but O’Reilly’s gun did not have a round chambered, which is relevant only for logistics as deadly force and criminal threat is what it is.

I’m glad nobody was hurt, but what now? Mr. O’Reilly has most certainly lost his Ohio Carry permit for life, furthermore I suspect he’ll wind up catching a felony charge, and probably do some time in jail. That will forever make him a prohibited person from ever owning, carrying, or using a gun ever again.

Remember, nobody was hurt, and in its condition the gun was incapable of firing. This is also quite fair, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Gun owners are generally more law abiding than the general population, and even the police population. This isn’t because we’re Angels, its because the stakes are so high.

Look at it this way, if O’Reilly got all lit up and drove home, and at one point swerved into oncoming traffic, but never hit anybody, before he was pulled over and charged with DUI….he’ll drive again…but threaten somebody with a piece that has an empty chamber, and he’s done with the 2nd Amendment for life.

Both are stupid and dangerous, and can result in people getting killed…but the punishment is disproportionate. That’s the reason for how we behave as a whole.

Now also let’s look a little bit further. Did this law change CAUSE this crime?

Hardly. Bad people have been carrying guns in bars ever since there were both guns and bars, no matter what the law was.

The laws work…unless your goal is just to ban guns rather than be concerned with people’s safety.

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Conditions of Readiness Expanded

So Jeff Cooper was a genius, and he was in love with the 1911 as a duty and carry pistol. To condense teaching he named the carry conditions of the M1911 Pistol:

Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine, hammer down.
Condition Three: Chamber empty, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition Two: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition One: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety on.
Condition Zero: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off.

So let’s first talk about the Two that gets a lot of talk:

Condition 1: “Cocked and Locked”, for any true single-action gun with a short and relatively light trigger pull, and a manual safety that will keep the gun from discharging. I this is a BARE MINIMUM for safe carry, as a light trigger like the one on the M1911 doesn’t have a ton of feedback before the hammer drops.

Of course even in this straight-forward condition there are some guns that seem to muddy the waters. Guns like the Springfield XD or the Walther PPS are striker, not hammer-fired guns, but the striker is at full-cock but unlike most Single-Action guns the trigger pull has a good deal of slack and resistance built into the trigger pull. Now while mechanically these guns are Single-Action because the only action performed by the trigger is dropping the striker (besides disengaging the passive safeties), I would argue that these guns shoot more like a Double-Action gun than a Single Action, and can be lumped in with those. More on that later.

Now on the other side of Carry is Condition 3 where your chamber is empty but you have a loaded magazine ready to go. Now on a 1911 the safety blocks the hammer, and with the hammer down the hammer also blocks the safety so to get a 1911 running from condition 3 is to rack the slide. Still there are many guns where the safety works independent of the other parts of the gun so you can have the gun with the hammer or striker decompressed and the safety in the “on” position, and even rack the slide with the safety still engaged.

Really I won’t discuss those differences in condition 3, I’ll just say that if you’re carrying DON’T CARRY CONDITION 3! If it makes you nervous to carry your gun in a condition where you can easily draw and fire, read my post on easing into carry, and get over your fears, no guns is designed to only be carried in condition 3, they are all designed to be safe carried in either/or condition 1 or 2. I will say that Condition 3 is a decent idea if you want to keep a gun at the ready but off your body. Like a nightstand gun, racking the slide is one of those coordinated efforts that if somebody manages to pipe a round, they’re old enough to know better. (That is if the person had training…YMMV)

Now Condition 2 is the crazy middle ground. Now when Col Cooper wrote the conditions “Condition 2” required the user to thumb-cock the hammer like on a Single-Action revolver before the gun could be fired. Of course there are a world of Double-Action guns out there. If you carry a revolver of any sort you’re carrying it in Condition 2 (even a Single-Action Army with the hammer on an empty chamber, still cocking the gun will bring a loaded chamber up under the hammer), All the Classic SIG Sauers are designed for condition 2 carry. For these guns you draw the gun and pull the trigger.

Now to complicate things we have Double-Action guns with decocking safeties. A Beretta 92 when you flip the gun on “Safe” the hammer drops on the firing pin block. At this point the hammer is down over a loaded chamber so its “Condition 2”, but the safety needs to be taken off before you can pull the trigger, so that’s kinda like “Condition 1” if you disregard the long trigger pull. But you can safely flip the safety to “Hot” and holster the gun because you have the same condition of readiness as a DA revolver or a SIG P226.

And of course there are guns like the Glock or the S&W M&P. They don’t have a hammer, but a striker, and when the gun is ready to fire the striker is neither fully-cocked nor is it at-rest. Overall these guns generally have a lighter and possibly a shorter trigger pull than a true double-action pistol or revolver, but that isn’t always the case as they can be set up or tuned for a trigger pull that is damn near identical to a DA revolver….or into scary short and light SA trigger pulls that are often ill advised for carry or defensive shooting.

These guns overall FEEL closest in my book like a Double Action trigger pull, so I lump them in as “DAO” guns. So a Glock or an M&P or similar gun at the ready I consider “Condition 2”.

Of course we can further muddy the waters by pointing out there are “DAO” type guns that also have manual safeties (Like the Ruger LC9 or the Para LDA series…both of which guns have hammers that are partially charged) so you can carry them in “Condition 2” but with that added safety.

But really IMHO the added safeties are unnecessary, so you can consider them “Gravy” or an added failure points, but one should note if a carry or defensive gun has a similar package without the added switches and leavers.

So maybe that cleared a few things up…or confused the hell out of you.

Gave me something to do.

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More Occupy Boston Irony

Turns out that the damage done to the Greenway by Occupy Boston will likely cost tax payers $2 Million.

You see they’re demanding that the government take power away from the corporations and give them to the people…and while asking for it they rape public land and public resources.

They’ll probably lay off a few public school teachers to pay for this. Good Job!

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“Gun Death” Knife Control

Yesterday we talked about fists…almost as common: Knives.

New Castle County, Del. detectives arrested Jorge Ramirez-Arce, 29, of the unit block of Abbey Lane in the Abbey Walk Apartment complex, east of Newark. He has been charged with first degree murder after he stabbed his roommate during an altercation outside their apartment early Saturday morning.

We all own knives, we all have had altercations, especially with room mates (Live long enough under one roof, and heads WILL butt…nothing wrong with that if nobody is physically hurt). Those who use the metric of “Gun Death” claim that somehow guns somehow cause more death, but look at this case. A knife was used, but we ALL have knives.

What we don’t have are a will to kill. That’s the only relevant factor.

h/t MikeW.

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Play Me Out: Kaleigh Baker

Another great video from her

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Opposition Research

Was leafing through the anti-gun feed and decided to do a few hip-shots on some of their silly rallying points:

Mexican Cartels Are Buying Ammo in the US!! The only angle I can see the antis pressing this is to further restrict the sale of ammo. Remember these are “Common Sense Laws”. BTW imagine that Fast and Furious didn’t exist and the Cartels weren’t sold guns by the BATFE and the FBI specifically so they’d turn up in Mexican raids and would be used to push a renewed “Assault Weapons” Ban. Like say I was to give you a case of .45 Mars Long, what would you do with it? Unless you can find a buyer, not a whole lot. Guns make it most useful, and how the Mexican Cartels got said guns is the dirty little secret of the “Progressives”.

This is an older meme from the antis, but it shows they really aren’t thinking much: “Nationally, about a third of households own guns, according to the Brady Campaign/Center to Prevent Gun Violence. National studies find that in 40 percent of households with children younger than 18, the guns are not locked up.” That’s a big number….and the number of dead and injured kids by guns is very small. That sounds almost like you’re manufacturing a problem to push “Common Sense Gun Laws” that restrict freedom for no reason.

Last is this ball of Fail where some group interviews Josh Horwitz about his fundraising:

FundRaising Success: How does the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence fund its mission?
Josh Horwitz: The Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence and our (501)(c)(4) sister organization, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, raise funds from a variety of sources. We support our mission to secure freedom from gun violence through individual and major-gift solicitation, foundation grants, direct mail, and e-mail solicitation. Most of our funds are raised through tax-deductible individual giving and grants to the Ed Fund.

Read: We get our bread from the Joyce Foundation almost exclusively.

FS: Can you share a recent fundraising success? Why was it successful?
JH: This year we have begun to focus more on some of the loyal donors to our direct-mail program, reaching out to them personally for face-to-face meetings or phone calls to keep them better informed and to solicit project funding in addition to annual gifts. This is an ongoing, longer-term strategy, but we have had some significant success in inspiring longtime direct-mail donors to increase their giving through this more individualized approach. Personal attention to donors and connecting with prospective donors in person or on the phone has been the key.

Read: We have no grass roots support. I give to several pro-gun political action groups, and besides the basic mailers and blanket outreach contact, I don’t have any direct relationship with these groups, because there are hundreds of thousands of people like me, and they just cant reach out to all of us. Meanwhile on their side they have a few pointy-headed intellectuals, and Limousine Liberals, but mostly we’re talking the Joyce Foundation.

Another fundraising difficulty is the obvious resource disparity between the gun violence prevention movement and the industry-funded gun lobby. We have our work cut out for us, so we always strive to effectively communicate how we leverage the resources we do have and make people feel confident in investing in our work.

Proof? Nah, but it sounds nice! Its the evil gun industry, not the massive popular support of guns, self defense, and the shooting sports, and the growing membership of pro gun groups.

I’m glad I switched sides, to be them would be VERY depressing.

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I LOL’d

Found this over at the PISSED-place

If you don’t get it, you haven’t been paying attention here! 😀

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This IS how it works

Miguel brings this interesting story on how Socialism really works.

Meanwhile, the protesters are starting to notice folks taking advantage of the demonstration by grabbing some of the free food and clothes that have been made available in Zuccotti Park.
“The tourists take all the food, and the hipsters take all the clothes,” said one demonstrator.

Yep you set up resources for those who need it, and those who aren’t in need game the system. Oh but this time it’ll work!

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Morning LOL

BTW if you carry Condition 3, (Empty Chamber, loaded magazine), this is how you look to me.

My 1911 is cocked-and-locked

h/t Endo-Mike

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Funny How that Works

I see a trend

More than 100 protesters from the Occupy Boston movement were arrested early Tuesday after they ignored warnings to move from a downtown greenway near where they have been camped out for more than a week, police said.

Now compare this other gatherings that are championed by the left. Union Demonstrations, Illegal Alien Demonstrations, G8/G20 Socialist Protests, now the Occupy #city movement. If you see an angry mob you’re seeing an angry LEFT-WING mob. And if you see a bunch of “Progressives” waiving signs, banging drums, and chanting GET THE HELL OUT OF DODGE, because soon they’re going to start a violent disturbance and the riot shields and batons will soon be swinging.

Now compare this with the large tea party gatherings. Cops are there only as a formality, and occasionally have to remind members of the terms of their demonstration permit (oh yeah, the right-leaning movements follow the law about permits too!) or safety concerns, and everybody goes home to their bed. If they bring a Paddywagon along, its just for show and it goes back to the barn Empty.

Heck let’s really raise the fear factor. OPEN CARRY GATHERINGS! Dozens or HUNDREDS of people all in a park, restaurant, or public venue, all with LOADED GUNS! Problems? None.

Heck even right-wing political demonstrations only turn violent when “Progressives” show up.

There is something to be said about the side that is always dangerous and violent when they get together.

Also its another good reason to carry a gun.

Be Safe out there!

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