Every Day, No Days Off has a great blog, and posted this neat video.
Wow, those guys kick the CRAP out of those cheap guns in a country-fried fashion….and the guns live!
They have some jams, and the overall fit-finish-and quality of hi-points are TERRIBLE! But man I’m impressed they still run.
I would still say there are all sorts of guns you can get for not a lot more money that are a WHOLE lot better. I would say if you’re not made of money you might want to look into Police Trade-in guns. Guns like Glocks of just about every cambering and flavor, Various Sig Sauers, Beretta 92s (Overall I think the Beretta is a big bulky gun for what you get…but compared to a 9mm Hi-point, its svelte), S&Ws. Also there are C&R Surplus guns for cheap that are pretty awesome. Makarovs, CZ-82s, The Polish P64 (which may be my next gun buy, I shot one at the Blog Shoot, and its a REALLY neat little gun! that’s almost, but not quite a Walther PPK in 9x18mm)….heck there are even H&K guns out there for short money.
All that being said, if any of those guns above aren’t available to you or affordable to you (A NEW hi-point might be only a a few dollars cheaper than a USED Police Trade-in Glock 22, or a CZ-82…but a USED Hi-Point is is probably cheaper than most H&K Magazines! And I bet used Hi-points are easy to find, as they are crummy guns that are easy to trade-up on) I Hi-Point WILL work in a pinch it seems!
Hi-Points are good guns IF you are Rock-Bottom, Dirt Poor, living in an Urban Hell and you can put a couple hundred rounds of Ball though it (to check it out and make sure it works) and then keep it in the Nightstand. But I would never make it my Primary Gun. Like you said, “For a Few Dollars More”, one could get better used weapons from the gun show. YMMV, of course.
It all depends on what your comparing them to! Jennings Arms / Braco Arms / Lorison Arms / Kal Tech Arms / Davis Industries/ Cobra Arms/ Raven Arms/ All shit guns and the competitors to Hi-Point, and HI-POINT stand head and shoulders above these competitors hands down! It blows my mind how people compare Glocks to Hi-Points! This like comparing a Ford Pinto to a Jaguar!
What does people want for a $150.00????? I own three of their products and never had a problem with them! I shoot the shit out of them! I guaranty you a dam glock would not go through this test or any big name guns..
A logical question for dip shits! How can you promote a life time warranty of a peace of shit and stay in business? YOUR CAN’T!!!!
Great points!
I would also like to say this; If you are a cop or in the Military and your link to making it home is your weapon! THEN BY ALL MEANS go in dept on a firearm that will promise your safe return home to your family.. PLEASE do not pinch dimes if this is the situation, your life depends on it… If profession causes you to put your life on the line spend the money! Cops and the military not only need to come home but they spend a lot of time at the range, why pinch a dime?
But as for your average person that like to shoots targets and maybe somebody crawling in your window at 3:00 AM in the night these guns are just fine!!!
Chasing bad guy’s and having shoot out and walking around for 10 hours a day with a gun on your side! NO!!!! That’s stupid!
Again all good points, tho I’m not a hi-point shooter so I can’t confirm or deny their reliability or robustness.
That being said I’m edging up on 10 hours with my 1911 on my side, and like most days it’ll likely log 18 hours in my holster before I toss it back in the vault.
As a 28 oz commander with slim grips its as much of a dream to lug around as it is to shoot, and that’s the reason why I carry it around so often. Then again it tips the scales at about 3X the price of a Hi-Point 9. A J-frame isn’t as nice or powerful gun to shoot, but it carries even better. A used one of these costs only a bit more than a new Hi-point…..
Weer’d,
One of the aspect I think many ‘gunnies’ forget is the trepidation of buying a firearm, especially by a person who knows little about firearms.
While trade ins and used models are out there, would you really recommend someone needs a firearm but knows little about them buy a trade in? How do they determine what is serviceable or not?
Heck, how do they even find a trade in.
Hi-Points are easy to find, come with a warranty and definitely fit a needed price point.
Another aspect is practice.
While used higher quality firearms are available, I would recommend a lower price point and more ammunition over high price and less — often only a single box.
Lastly, why not view these as starter or entry firearms……kind of like Mosin Nagant versus an FAL, eh?
Well as far as used Police trade-ins I generally hear they’re mechanically sound guns, and are by nature a proven platform. On that alone I’d take my chances on a $200-$300 Trade-in gun, and chances are such a gun will out-last the shooter with only basic maintenance. That being said most FFLs will have a limited-time return policy if you just happen to get a lemon. Overall I’d always say if you’re considering buying a new Hi-Point, I’d say you’d be MUCH better off buying a police trade-in gun, or a used gun that the shop keeper will stand behind. (FYI any 01FFL worth their salt should be able to tap into a various selection of police trade-ins), but a Used Hi-Point might be one of the cheapest major-caliber guns out there….
I definitely think that hi-points are guns for those who are not serious about guns, but feel the need to have a gun, just like Mosin Nagants for non-collecting reasons are not rifles for the serious rifle operator….tho both guns can get a new shooter’s feet wet and point them to a higher-quality gun for more serious shooting.
At $200-300, you’re talking twice as much as a Hi Point–I’ve seen Hi Points from $90-150 at local shops-to be fair, the $90 price was about 3 years ago, and the shop was about 5-10 miles from MKS, the distributor of Hi Point–but I have not seen a $200 police trade in for an even longer time.
What did you think of the P64 Weer’d. I almost bought one earlier in the year, but didn’t because I didn’t want to have to stock yet another caliber. That and mags are expensive.
Very nice. Well built and fitted by my rough inspection, decocker safety functions, and is low enough profile that I’d comfortably carry it condition 2, Shot well without jams or slide-bite (tho I only fed it 2 mags) Heel magazine release, which are made of fail, but this one seemed to work very well. You won’t be doing any speedy tactical reloads with it, but also you won’t be wrestling to get the mag free.
One odd thing is the trigger. It’s like 11lbs on double action, smooth with a decent break, but damn heavy, but around 4lbs and VERY crisp in SA. Surprised the shit out of me, and I limp-wristed the shot, but no jams.
As for must-Have C&R guns I’d put that one right up there with the CZ-82 as a high value gun. Also 9×18 ammo is cheap and plentiful.