Besides the oppression of the poor a huge issue with our current concealed weapons system is the danger it puts long-haul truckers in.
Oakland police released a sketch Friday of a man being sought in connection with the beating death of a truck driver at the Port of Oakland that may have resulted from a confrontation with another driver.
Jie Tao Liu, 58, of San Jose was found unconscious on the 1700 block of Middle Harbor Road about 12:40 p.m. on June 24, said Officer Holly Joshi, an Oakland police spokeswoman.
Liu died at Highland Hospital in Oakland the next day.
Doesn’t sound like Liu was a long-haul trucker, but he did live in California, so its not like it matters. Still for truckers who haul cross-country, unless you work exclusively in the deep south where the states generally like to play fair with permits you need to spend a LOT of money to acquire and maintain lawful conceal carry permits for the states you cross, and there are some places where its damn near impossible for you to have a defensive weapon in your sleeper cab when you get some rest in a rest area late at night.
I imagine most truckers have stories of scams, robberies and assaults at these rest areas. They aren’t safe places.
Hopefully they’ll find the guy who did this. (and maybe already have at the time of this syndication)
My understanding is that you put anything, even a hanging blanket between your house part and the operator cab and that blanket becomes a magic legal forcefield of the 4th amendment level. Effectiveness is only guaranteed relative to recent court rulings, I am not your lawyer (nor anyone elses), etc.
In some instances, the cop can search your driver seat and any area in reach of that seat, so he may be able to reach past that blanket into 4th amendment territory, I don’t know.
But I figure that if you have something unloaded, in a locked box, and the box is secured to the frame of the car/truck/van , and it’s safely out of reach in 4th amendment territory, you’re probably OK everywhere except places like DC or Chicago (where you’re still legal, except they’ll arrest you and steal the firearm anyway)
(If however, you’re talking about our lost right to strap a fully functional firearm and cross the country peacefully, you’re still screwed)
If I’m gonna carry a gun with me I’d PREFER to have it strapped to me and cocked-locked-and-ready-to-rock….because if I KNEW when the ball was about to drop I wouldn’t go there, and wouldn’t bother with all this carry gun and carry ammo nonsense.
Of course I’d like to carry it, but until we get our lost right to carry back, and unless I’m gunning to be a test case, there just might be a time, even when transporting legally, when it would be best to hand your firearm back to your partner, and have them lock it in a box, with a combination lock, back is an area that counts as a home.
The combo lock is because they can’t get the combination from you during a “Terry” search
Yep. Well Alan Gura is working pretty hard right now (and its becoming quite the battle, winning as it is) to get the “Keep…Arms” part restored to the reading of the constitution….once that’s squared away the “And Bear” part will need a LOT of work. Even if you can own a 1911 or an AR-15 in Washington DC, the fact that it needs to be broken down or locked up when you open your front door seems to be a huge issue in actually BEARING your arms as the constitution guarantees.
We’ve let our rights be ignored for far too long, so this miserable and arduous process is the price we pay for our sloth as a Republic.
Chicago, it’s a felony now, too. When they arrested me and stole a firearm if was only a misdemeanor. One nice thing they did since, I found out when I tried to get it expunged from my record, as of the mid-90s, Illinois has had a law on the books that you can’t get weapons charges, even misdemeanor ones, expunged except by special approval or pardon from the governor, no joke. Took a significant extra amount of lawyer money chasing that around and alas, the misdemeanor is still on my record.. Turned out I didn’t have near enough money to buy any of the governors, although the last couple that are up on corruption charges and in prison, well, I wish I woulda tried harder to bribe them…
I drove trucks for a while in the 90s. EVERYBODY I knew carried, permits or not, laws be damned. Lots of places you drive commercial trucks to are not the nicest places to be in towns and very often it’s late at night or in the wee hours of the morning.
Sleeper Cabs and RVs, cops generally won’t bother you if it’s not in the driving portion, albeit this was before the now completed erosion of the 4th…
One fellow I knew, Frank, he had a big Rott that didn’t like most people and that always traveled with him. He had a NY state cop ask to search his sleeper once. When he looked into the face of a snarling Rott he decided it wasn’t needed to search the whole tractor, he’d just write a speeding ticket and go about his day.