“Gun Death” Restraining Order

A Man walks right through a restraining order and stabs his wife to death.

Restraining orders do prevent the subject from owning or buying firearms, which can be trusted about as far as the order for the subject to keep their distance…in this case the firearm restriction worked, but the protection order didn’t.

Is a victim of “Knife Death” any less dead than a victim of “Gun Death?”

Of course if you’re a victim of domestic violence, stalking, or threats first GET AWAY, second get a Restraining order, and third get a gun and carry it always!

Now I won’t advise anybody to carry a gun where it is illegal…but if my choice was to disarm with somebody who had made direct threats against me around, or carry illegally…well I’d have a choice to make.

h/t Mike W.

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0 Responses to “Gun Death” Restraining Order

  1. Robert Evans says:

    It occurs to me that we’ve been viewing the Restraining Order in the wrong light; rather than view it as a cease-and-desist letter, we should instead perhaps view it as similar to a deer tag issued for hunting season:

    Ok, ma’am, we’ll issue this tag to you; it allows you to shoot John Buck (can’t be a John Doe if we’re talking about a guy, now can it?), and only John Buck, without any further criminal liability. Guidelines for shooting John Buck are on the back of the tag. If you succeed in shooting John Buck call the number on the back, or just dial 911, and we’ll send someone out to collect the carcass. No, you can’t gut him, skin him and have him mounted.

    • Weerd Beard says:

      Not quite as cold blooded, but I’ve had a few friends issue a restraining order, and I’ve always pointed out that its a legal warning to stay away, so if you see them and they don’t stay away, assume they’re going to kill you, and be prepared to kill them first.

      Protection orders do their best protecting when it comes to the person who issued the order using deadly force.

      And of course the person issuing the order needs to be smart too. I remember a judge trying to cite women who issued protection orders against boyfriends…but still came by their apartments when they wanted some sex.

  2. Over the years, a few women have gotten restraining orders against physically abusive exes at my urging (something I usually suggest in that situation). Once they got it and the women were more relaxed because they were “safe”, I told them how worthless it was as a shield. Then I explained that when he comes back (and there is a good chance that he will) the restraining order is what they show the nice police man when he arrives after they have shot, stabbed, bludgeoned, or done whatever form of violence to their particular asshole that they needed to do in order to protect themselves. Typically, the police man reads the order, chuckles a bit, and drags the asshole off to jail (or has the paramedic or coroner drag the asshole off to wherever) and he is never seen again (outside a court room). I do give them a run down of what is legal self defence and what is not, just in case (like not calling and inviting him over etc. It’s usually pretty cut and dry when they have an RO). Then, as long as the woman isn’t a prohibited person, I offer a few hours of range time, and the loan of a pistol, just in case. I have a pistol that I don’t care much for that I keep for just this purpose. Please note that these women have all been personally know to me, I don’t lend guns out to strangers. Only one woman has taken me up on the offer for the loan of the pistol and she returned it a few weeks later when her ex left the state (not because she had a pistol, for other reasons).

    Just like a gun is not a magical token of protection, a restraining order is also not magical in nature. However, used in conjunction with eachother they can be a girls best defence when threatened by a violent asshole.


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