For the H und K Fans

6 Responses to For the H und K Fans

1. guy says:

   September 23, 2013 at 2:33 pm

   “As far as I’m concerned its a Hi-Point…”

   You forgot to add, “lower muzzle velocities and more muzzle flash!”

   Yeah that’s a winner.

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   • Weerd Beard says:

     September 23, 2013 at 8:10 pm

     Yeah that deep rifling seems to be a band-aid to fix poor engineering. Much like the chamber flutes on the G3 rifle that destroys brass as its being fired.

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2. AZRon says:

   September 23, 2013 at 8:44 pm

   I can’t see the video. Can somebody tell me which model is being displayed?

   (I might have a [polite] rebuttal.)

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   • Weerd Beard says:

     September 23, 2013 at 9:13 pm

     You should know by the description given!

     Its the HK VP70Z.

     Known by Tam as the Hi-Point and Koch!

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     • AZRon says:

       September 23, 2013 at 10:43 pm

       Thank you for the follow-up,

       I just read the post at “Forgotten”, but still didn’t watch the video. As a VP owner for 30 years, I would add that are very reliable, and once their trigger is learned, very accurate. Due to the simplicity of the design I suppose, I have never heard of one breaking. No they are not a pocket gun or a target pistol, nor were they designed to be back in the ’60’s. They were a fighting pistol. A DAO, striker-fired, 18+1 9mm, polymer-framed bullet launcher. And yeah, that rifling is DEEP! It actually looks freaky from the muzzle-end, then again, I’m more used to polygonal barrels. But mine have served me well. My only real complaint is that proper holsters can be hard to find.

       I do take exception with one of his statements:

       “As for the trigger, it’s long and heavy (kinda like everything else HK was making at the time…)”

       Balderdash! At the time, HK was making the HK4, the VP70z, The P9s, and the P7 pistols. I’ve never shot a 4, so I’ll not comment, but the P7 and the P9s have outstanding triggers. I’ll go so far as to say that my P9s Target .45 has the finest single-action trigger pull of any pistol that I have ever fired. (in 40 years there’s been a bunch of ’em)

       You may rightfully wonder why I’m posting this here instead of there. It’s because I live to edify.

       Your comment on fluted chambers is a bit off. I’ve been reloading for my HK91 since 1981, and the flutes have never caused me the least bit of trouble. You might be mistaking this problem with the violent extraction of the 91, which even with normal loads would put a very large dent in the brass, rendering them scrap. The first accessory that I bought was a factory ejection port case buffer. Back then it cost ~$50, and snaps onto the receiver. Problem solved. Also, I seem to remember reading that the fluting of chambers was initially designed for machine guns that used steel-cased ammunition to aid in extraction.

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       • Weerd Beard says:

         September 24, 2013 at 7:46 am

         Great comment! And don’t worry about posting to simply edify, as this is a discussion blog first!

         Thanks for reading!

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