Here’s an interesting Image of the Antis:
Now what’s really interesting is first those Tylenol Deaths were from a 3rd Party tampering with bottles, nothing was WRONG with the Tylenol as it left the factory, but at some point somebody poisoned it. The safety was just to clean up the killer’s mess.
The Pintos likely weren’t as dangerous as Ralph Nader claimed, but Ford recalled them anyway just to save face.
But what about the guns? Is there anything WRONG with them? No, further as gun ownership and sales numbers increase, the homicide rate has been DROPPING. This is NOT a sign of a defective product.
We don’t see a recall of cheap beer or booze when young people drink too much, or go drinking and driving. We don’t see the recall of cars used by drunk drivers…even the Delmont 88
Instead these a criminal acts, and the behavior, and the people committing the behavior are the ones punished.
Oh and don’t tell the antis about the number of guns that ARE recalled every year, because that takes a weak argument and blows it up!
Gotta love the doublethink.
See Handguns are both “designed with only killing in mind” AND handguns killing people is a “factory defect”.
I must have missed the clamor to have cars recalled when they’re used for hit and runs, or used to commit suicide through ramming or gassing.
Course the antis miss when guns do get recalled. It must be so NICE to live in such an ignorant bubble.
Some of them are ignorant, most of them KNOW better, but intentionally LIE because their narrative is more important than truth.
There’s also that, once again, what they’re really talking about is confiscation.
I seem to recall the “this gun is solely for killing people” line used by anti-gunners from the “assault rifle”/large-capacity magazine debate. Hope my memory’s okay.
“This gun saved a life” could be a pro-gun activist theme. Activists behind a handgun display, raising each handgun in turn, and telling the story of how each handgun was used to thwart a home invasion, a robbery, an assault, etc. To guard against anti-gunners’ criticism, pick cases in which the attack was deterred without a shot fired or with the assailant only wounded.
I sure want to know where they keep coming up with that 30,000+ a year Stat. I sure can’t seem to find that amount in any Gooberment Database.
That is a good point. I know I was reading it for years in current data. Some years it would be 30,000, some years 33,000, and between. Still the way homicides have been dropping, you’d have to wonder if the number is down to the high 20s….unless PTSD-related suicides are up higher than I’m guessing.
Actually it’s probably still the same because justifiable homicides are way up because people have gotten the point and are refusing to be victims, so I bet it’s still about 30 grand.
Last I checked (a few minutes ago on Google), untainted Tylenol kills a thousand people every year and it is still on the market.
And people still do tamper with products. It just isn’t any fun because the news media won’t report on it. They figured out that some people were tampering with products to make the news. Cause… meet effect.
Now if the news media would get that message about spree shooters, we might see fewer of them.
But that wouldn’t fit The Narrative.
Very good point. Overdosing on Tylenol or Advil are good ways to kill yourself. Still the proper use of these OTC medicines is written on the package and when you break the rules it’s on you.
Same goes for guns.
The problem is 30,000 is more or less the event. What not said and the true lie is
how many are in what column. When you consider anyone that dies from a bullet
that is deserved or not is counted even if they personally launched the bullet against themselves.
You subtract suicides, then thugs killing thugs, then suicide by cop, accidental and not so much so cop shootings and what are we left with… Accidents/negligence thankfully few and criminal actions. The first three are the real grabber. Oddly spree killings are in the criminal actions and likely only portion of the whole.
So in the end stats are used to create plausible lies and outright lies. Because, 79% of every statistic is made up on the spot!/?
So with that in mind they have no story if they don’t lie or inflate things. Since critical thought is already been pointed out the double think is just the lazy way out. They are incredibly lazy in their stupid way.
Eck!
Eck, you’re right. An America with 30,000 lawful killings of assailants and 0 unlawful killings of innocents seems to me a moral universe away from an America of 0 lawful killings of assailants and 30,000 unlawful killings of innocents. The gross number stays the same.
By inclination and education, I’m willing to give the other guy a shot at making his case. I’m seeing very little among anti-gun people that shows they even care about finding common ground with pro-gun folks. They’re like some people I see in the academy. They know all the answers before they even grapple with the questions.
I have the sudden urge to strap on the DW, jump in the Corvair, fire up a fattie, and cruise on over to Hammerheads. Maybe after downing a few, I’ll know who I can blame (and sue) for my behaviour.
It can’t my fault, can it? I’m a victim. I’m oppressed like a m**herf**ker.
Yeah man! Chevy sucks! I drive a Ford and anybody who is dumb enough to drive one of those dumb bowtie-mobiles deserves what those crappy cars will do to them! 🙂