“Progressive” Economics

Saw this awesome video, and I thought I’d add to it.

College, like Health Care will never be “Free” because they all must be services rendered by a skilled professional. What I’m sure Julie is aware of, but didn’t feel to delve in is what the cost of government involvement is.

She cites from this article:

According to a White House press release on Friday, the America’s College Promise plan would “make two years of community college free for responsible students, letting students earn the first half of a bachelor’s degree and earn skills needed in the workforce at no cost.”

The plan may involve no costs for students, but taxpayers are a different story. The White House estimates that the plan could save as many as 9 million students about $3,800 annually, which translates to an annual cost of about $34.2 billion.

That 34 Billion number was simply done by multiplying the number of students by the estimated cost to be subsidized by tax payers. But it isn’t that simple, as running any sort of program costs money as well.

There are a few examples of stuff like this already working. Look at Health Care. Since the massive overtaking of health insurance in this country, insured people don’t actually PAY for their health care. For somebody like me the actual health care is “Free”, I just pay my insurance company (though the help of my employer) to be covered, and pay a “usage fee” in the form of co-pays when I actually engage their services.

Now if I wasn’t ensured I could negotiate with my doctor what an exam or procedure would cost, have that done, and then pay cash and be done. With Health Insurance my employer has people who manage the group accounts, the insurance company has people who run the account, and the doctor has employees who manage collection of the fees from the provider. All of that costs a very non-trivial number. Further the doctor has no incentive to give me his fairest price, or compete with the office across the street as far as price goes, because I don’t know or care what an exam or procedure costs unless I look at my insurance statement. Either way there is negotiation between the doctor and insurance company (either on accepted rates, or individual services) so whatever number is on my statement is artificial anyway.

Same goes for charities. Your buddy’s house burns down and he asks you and all his friends to help him out. You pay him and the money goes into his pocket. Now many charities work with volunteers, but bigger groups will have some paid management staff, plus overhead costs for fundraising and distribution of goods and services.

Either way the more people that get involved between a simple transaction the more money is lost, and just like the professor at the college isn’t going to giving lectures and grades for free, the people who are collecting and distributing tax monies for subsidized schools aren’t going to do it for free. Further the government is well known for hiring 10 people to do the job of 3, and giving them good benefits and retirement.

And that isn’t going into the people who will be urged by the system to go to “free College” when they have no buisness and/or no interest in getting a higher degree, causing increased demand on the system to be paid for by schools raising rates to build new classrooms and hire new instructors, and the .gov side needing more people to manage the system.

So really the $34 billion price tag is a rock bottom estimate!

BUT FREE!!!!!!

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5 Responses to “Progressive” Economics

  1. divemedic says:

    Not only that, but once the government is paying for it, it will become an “entitlement” and like high school, teachers will be berated by the parents of any student who earns less than the grade that they feel their little snowflake deserves.

    • Weerd Beard says:

      That’s a very good point. In my parents generation a High School diploma was a certificate that meant something. Now in mine, a dropout who can read, write, and do math is just as employable as somebody with a high school diploma or GED, and even those people are fighting for menial jobs against people with worthless 4-year degrees. This very well could lead to the first education level to mean anything legitimate being Master’s level….

      • Archer says:

        I still think the character Sindrome put it best in The Incredibles: “When everyone’s ‘super’, no one will be.”

        It should be how Jimmy Dugan (played by Tom Hanks) put it in A League of Their Own: “Of course it’s hard. If it was easy everyone would do it. The ‘hard’ is what makes it great.”

        Take-away: When you make it easy, everyone will do it. When everyone does it, it ceases to set people apart from the crowd…

        … except for the people who choose not to because they don’t need to; they become “less”.

  2. TS says:

    Degrees are used to separate yourself from the pack and market yourself as more valuable to an employer. When everyone has an associate or bachelors degree, graduate degrees end up being downgraded to what a four year degree used to mean. Society productivity goes down because of longer times getting into the work force, plus the massive debt that gets accrued. On top of that, government handouts for loans and “free college” artificially drive up the price of education.

    • Archer says:

      The U.S. is now slated to become the most-educated-but-least-capable nation, per capita, in the world.

      Somehow, I’m not feeling particularly proud of that statement.

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