Go have a look at the pictures and videos here, as well as story and pictures here.
While you read that note that the UK is a nation that has a very low “Gun Death” rate, and its considered by those who see it as a valid metric as a “Civilized nation not at War”.
Kevin Baker notes how things used to be. This is the dream world the antis would love for us to live in.
I would rather they relocate to those “peaceful” streets.
I’ve been thinking about Paul Helmke’s departure from the Brady Campaign.
Sebastian has an amusing post up where the Brady’s latch on to a bit of lunacy by Bill Maher. The lunacy can be viewed here:
Note the blatantly homophobic joke that gays prefer assembly line anonymous sex in public restrooms. While I’ve unfortunately encountered “Gay Cruising” in a public park…let’s just say I know quite a few black guys who smoke Menthol cigarets, and enjoy fried chicken and collard greens…
So what does this have to do with Helmke? Well I wonder if Helmke’s Republican Affiliation had anything to do with it. Now granted Helmke was a RINO, likely to the left of gun-grabbers, and tax lovers, like Mitt Romney. Still look at who has replaced him, and who exists in the gun control leadership positions. It seems they are all Ultra-Left “Progressives”.
I also wonder what this means. Could simply mean that the Brady Board held their nose with Helmke because they thought they could use his Republican affiliation to both convince pro-gun Republicans to support more gun control, or to make them appear “Bi-Partisan”.
Still something tells me that since #1. The Brady’s can’t pass a bill unless they get NRA support it too, and #2. Since not only do most people not CARE that Helmke has an “R” after his name, most people aren’t even aware of it, and assume he’s just another Pinko “Progressive”. That they decided it wasn’t helping them having a Republican around.
Now was this just for convenience, or was it tactical? Are they going to attempt to push harder in the most-liberal, most anti-gun districts of America? Could be. Still the egregious actions of places like Washington DC, Chicago, Massachusetts, and California have been the battlegrounds for defining the boundaries of the 2nd Amendment, and only making our job easier.
Just something to watch out for in the future. Also if anybody can think of a Brady or Joyce affiliated politicians (such as Mayors against Illegal Guns) who are republicans, let’s compile a list.
This is just a further continuation of my assertion that all “Progressive” activists in general and Gun Control activists specifically are Narcissists, stalkers and trolls. It seems the only difference between the ones that nationally represent the cause, and the cellar dwellers who simply troll pro-rights sits, and me-too at the handful of anti-gun sites, is how well they can conceal their deviant behavior.
So that leads me here. I did a post on how short-sighted and foolish the Joyce Foundation “Ask Campaign” was. In it I put a link of New Trajectory, one of the few “Cease Fire” branches of the Joyce Foundation that actually has a blog, granted with a heavily moderated comment section, like all anti-gun blogs. Its proprietor who goes by the dubious name of “Baldr Odinson” jumped on and made a pretty rude and fallacy-rich comment that can be found here.
It wasn’t much of an argument to the rebuttals were both easy, and numerous, feel free to read them. Also check out Thirdpower’s extended rebuttal here at his site. His makes an excellent point that Baldr calls us fools for rebuffing his Joyce talking points, and notes that he allows his children to play in homes of gun-owners so long as they meet his safety standards. Only on a separate occasion he notes that the is no way children can safely play in a home that has guns, period. Oops.
Further at one point on his blog somebody asked how he would protect his family from harm. His response:
@ Bob: Not with a gun…I and my son are students of kung fu, and my wife practices haganah. We are all still relatively new to these martial arts, but its a start at self protection. Not as lethal as a gun, but you can’t accidentally beat yourself to death. 😉
Now read my rebuff VERY carefully, as I want all to know I am indeed being fair. Have a peek at Mr. Odinson, I do this in NO way to disparage a person on physical appearance, trust me, I ain’t no prize and I’ve never been mistaken for Adonis or Jason Statham in my life. (I did have the young daughter of friend say I looked like Brad Pitt…We all had a good laugh at her youthful Naivete)
I will point out what martial arts champions look like. They do not look like myself or Baldr. They are generally larger in size, well muscled, and lean. I’ll also point out that in all the Martial arts competitions are divided up by weight class, and by sex. I’m not saying its impossible for s smaller, lighter person to take down a larger heavier one, or a woman to take down a man, even in the same size and weight (tho generally women run a bit smaller), but it is deemed uncommon enough that every martial arts competition out there, from boxing and kickboxing, to MMA and Kung Fu, separate the fighters by weight and sex.
I’ll also note there is a HUGE number of martial artists who are also advocates for defensive firearms. The most visible is Chuck Norris, who has a pretty well-respected career in many schools of martial arts, and most will agree he is a martial artist first, and an actor second, but also a strong activist for the NRA. There are lots of other people in the world of Martial arts who keep and bear arms despite their superior physical condition, and training.
And of course there’s the people who use martial arts as part of their job. Military, Police, and Security forces. They’re all generally armed, if not with firearms, with other lethal tools like clubs and knives.
Sorry Baldr, while Kung-Fu will give you some valuable tools to defend yourself, even the grand masters of the arts don’t want to bet their life on it. And those are not people like myself or Baldr who could stand to drop a few pounds, and maybe lift weights a good bit more.
OK so now back to the original topic. After I rebuffed Baldr’s arguments made this statement:
I appreciate you giving your unique opinions to the discussion at Weer’d World, but I will note your, and your compatriots past behavior of simply dropping talking points, and not returning to continue debate. Any point worth making, is a point worth defending. If you are not willing to defend your points with reasonable debate, I will start marking further comments by you appropriately as Spam. This is a blog for discussion of issues, not for your personal soap box. If you wish to discuss the issues I welcome it, if you feel the need to drop controversial comments and not follow up on them, you are abusing my blog.
If you find this task daunting, maybe you should recruit some more voices for your cause.
Assuming he only came to my post I also emailed it to him. Now for those who might see this as a bit extreme, go have a look in the comments of the linked Thirdpower post. Baldr makes one inane comment, and is gone. Have a lot at the thread where I made that statement. No follow-up. Thirdpower makes reference to Baldr claiming to be unaware at his own affiliation to the Joyce foundation. That comment can be found here, note again that’s the only comment he felt like leaving. There are also many other blogs where he’s done exactly the same thing.
This is a behavior I’ve called Schrödinger’s “Progressive”, where a “Progressive” person drops in, drops their own talking points, and leaves, paying no mind to the rebuttals, many of them well-thought-out, and citing data.
I love debate, its something that makes both sides stronger. This isn’t debate, this is simply using another person’s blog as an extension of their soap box without the owner’s permission. Its the blog equivalent of littering, he leaves his trash for others to pick up.
Now of course I did get ONE response in my email from Baldr.
Shucks. Funny how you don’t demand this of your extremist pals, but then it’s not really a debate when the only people who post are yes-men.
Baldr
Now we’ll forgive Baldr, he’s a “Progressive” which gives him license to be an expert on things he knows nothing about, such as my comment section. I think it speaks for itself. Also given that Baldr’s comments still exist, and those that are up right now will not be touched, does make him look like quite the fool. My Response to him:
Back when I supported gun control, I also found that I couldn’t support the agenda no matter how much I wanted it to be true. The facts and history were just not behind me.
I had no choice, live a lie, or switch sides.
I demand this of all who comment at Weer’d World. It just seems only those who support gun control seem to feel that the hit-and-run tactic of debate will somehow win hearts and minds.
You have two quite good direct rebuttals to your little comment up now. Will you show us exactly where we are wrong on this whole debate, or will you simply chose to no longer waste our time?
-Weer’d
Those rebuttals have multiplied since I wrote that. of course I got no further response. It seems that his beliefs are hardly worth defending. Also rather ironic that he takes offense to my statements, but he plays the typical anti-gun game of deleting most of the comments made on his own blog.
Yawn. I know boring stuff. Just Weer’d World is not just my soap box, its my forum for debate and discussion of the issues I find important. I welcome all who agree or disagree we me to comment, and debate. I don’t have a “Commenting Policy” because mostly I feel them unnecessary and tedious. My general feelings are that we’re all grown-ups here so we don’t need a referee. I clean up obvious trash. I get spam from bots here that I delete, I have maybe seen one or two comments that were just childish people using my blog as a graffiti board that just wrote some naughty words and left it at that. I simply deleted those and the problem stopped. As for REAL abuse, like Baldr, or some of his trollish compatriots, I think I owe it to them to make a full post on their banishment.
So there it is. Baldr, you had your chance. All your previous posts will remain, any further posts will be marked as “Spam” which they rightfully are.
Good day!
That when the President calls a press conference he’s always late? Now I don’t pay much attention to the dear-reader when he’s parroting TOTUS. I’ll also note that this is a non-partisan reaction, I hate prepared speeches, they are nothing but re-iterations of shit you should already know, and generous heaps of polish on turds. Also since they have been hand-crafted to make the reader look good so they will give a wide berth to any issues that are deemed problematic. This goes to the worst Pinko Leftist out there, as well as the grandest pro-liberty candidate of the people.
Still I notice this because I’m a New and Talk radio Junkie. Keeps me abreast in the issues (if I appropriately surf the right stations to avoid the partisan cheerleaders who’s shows are little more then the very crafted speeches I despise) and keeps me entertained when I find myself shuttered in a quiet lab doing monotonous tasks.
Being news stations they generally take heed to any local or national special events, Presidential Press Conferences are one of those things. And I notice so often when the President says he’ll make a 1:00 Press Conference its 1:30-2:00 before he manages to get his ass to the horn and start squawking.
Doesn’t bother me any, as I’d rather he not be on the station I’m listening to at all. Still what does it say about the President that he’s consistently half-hour to hour or more late for an event HE arranged?
Now I understand he’s the President, things can happen. Maybe a top-secret message from one of the half-dozen war fronts this “President For Peace” came in and he needed to be briefed on the issue or make an executive order. Maybe he was briefing a few key heads-of-state before the speech and some of them got a little chatty. Shit happens, and he is a high man on the totem pole, so a lot of people want his floppy ears.
But I can’t recall a press conference where the president showed up on time.
With consistency like this its almost like he thinks his time is more valuable and we have nothing better to do than watch him read from a teleprompter, and then decline questions from the Press “Corpse”.
Well with the high unemployment numbers and the stock market taking a shit, maybe he’s right…
We can’t compare guns to cars because “Progressives” drive cars…but maybe we can compare SUVs? I mean they’re bad for the environment, and enjoyed by people who live in Rural areas…
BEAVER CREEK, Minn. – A Hubbardston, Massachusetts woman lost control of her SUV on Interstate 90 near Beaver Creek, Minnesota early Tuesday morning, leading to a crash that killed her 14-year-old son and critically injured three of her other children.
According to the Minnesota State Patrol, 43-year-old Pamela Roper lost control of her Dodge Durango SUV, entered a ditch off I-90 and struck the embankment of the Rock County Road 6 bridge around 4 a.m. Tuesday.
Wow, go over to the article to read the whole thing, a hairy accident. Lots of death and injury, tho not a bit of “Gun Death”.
On an interesting point is the was sent to me by Maddmedic in Minnesota, and I’m here in Mass where the injured and departed were from.
Just found this video:
Appears to be the real-deal and currently used on IDF tanks, and with plans to be fielded on US Stryker Vehicles.
From the stories I hear from current combat vets seems that IEDs and RPGs are the two biggest threats against troops. This will help one of those.
Found this article online written by our favorite Brady Bot.
What’s interesting is the article is 99% of Joan Peterson talking about herself, and repeating information about the Norwegian massacre.
The only “substantive” section is this:
Please join me in asking elected leaders to enact sensible gun laws so we can at least begin to prevent gun injuries and deaths.
Joan A. Peterson
That’s IT! Now here’s an interesting thing. As a general rule the tactics of the Antis has been “We need to ban/restrict X because X causes *made up bullshit*”. That stuff is easily combatable, as all we need to do is respond with truth, real-life events, and statistics that both back up our side and refute the lies. This has become MUCH easier with the switch from print and broadcast media to internet used for fact-finding and news, and just the simple word-of-mouth cumulative ripple-effect that happens when people start fighting for their rights. One person wakes from their slumber, either from a personal epiphany or through the actions of others…and they tell several others, who each tell several others on their own. Pretty soon we go from passing a federal Assault Weapons ban that could be summed up by this quote:
Assault weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons –anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun– can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons -Josh Sugarmann, executive director and founder of the Violence Policy Center (VPC).
To the AR-15 becoming the best-selling rifle in the nation. It was simple, The forces of evil enacted a ban from lies and inaction and ignorance from the general population. With the ban pending…and eventually enacted, people suddenly got curious about what the big fuss was. So a few people decided to buy AR-15 rifles “Just for Fun” or as an investment, or simply to stick-it-to-the-man. These people took their rifles to the range, and found them to be both very fun, and very practical. They took friends. Some of their friends went out and bought rifles of their own. Many of these later generations attempted to buy rifles during the ban and saw the trivial stupidity of the restrictions on pre-ban guns, and the cosmetically different, but functionally the same ban-compliant guns. When the 10-year sunset came about the ban was lifted, and so was the chances of a similar ban ever being enacted.
Still Sugarmann’s lie has teeth. He was attacking firearms that his organization, and others, had defined as “Assault Weapons”, and magazines his organization, and others, had defined as “High Capacity”. They were lies, but they had a purpose, and they WON!
Now let’s say you’re a mush-minded sympathizer for Joan’s cherry-picked autobiography, and rendition of the Norway shooting. Let’s just imagine when she said “Please join me in asking elected leaders to enact sensible gun laws so we can at least begin to prevent gun injuries and deaths.” that sounds like a good idea to you. Then what?
Seriously. Call your senator or legislator and demand they “enact sensible gun laws”? Also how will those people clarify if asked “Such as?” or will they take it the logical way and realize its stupid demanding special permits to buy and carry guns, and maybe charging $200 for a gun-muffler doesn’t make much sense…
And we know that most people won’t even get that far. They will start looking up a phone number or an email and realize “What am I going to say?” and simply go back to their chair.
To quote the bard: “It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury Signifying nothing.”
Also I link the article and give HUGE props to the Duluth News Tribune for posting the full disclosure of this “Reader’s View”
The writer is co-president of the Northland Chapter of the Brady Campaign, is a board member for the Brady Campaign/Center to Prevent Gun Violence, and is active with Protect Minnesota and with the Domestic Abuse Intervention Programs, which uses the Duluth Model.
Oh BTW I was curious about the “Duluth Model” so I Looked it up, seems it’s similar to Joan’s article where it prattles on-and-on about stuff in a vaguely pointed way, with hopes that somewhere this pile of nothing will solve a problem. Well it will if the problem is Guilty White Liberals staying up at night worrying about the problems of the world. The Duluth Model appears to help them sleep like a baby as the world gets worse by telling them “They Made a Difference”.
Sorry I got side-tracked. Still I’m glad they won’t just publish a letter from a paid shill as if they were just a regular Joe.
Jay has some of his pictures up from the Blog Shoot. The only pix I have I’ve already posted…the Gorilla, there were a few that I hastily snapped with my phone that were too lame to publish. Overall at these events I’d rather be shooting, or talking with people. I attempted to take pictures the first shoot I attended, and I took a scant handful, so the other shoots I simply left the camera at home, and chose to just enjoy myself.
I had to steal this one from him, because it was VASTLY too awesome!
Now that’s Jay’s 360PD AKA “The Snubbie From Hell”. Now if you were keeping track at home, at the NRA show bought some Fancy VZ Grips to pretty up his gun from the standard black Hogue Rubber grips.
I asked him if he’d shot the gun with the new grips yet. He hadn’t. We were both a bit nervous, as the Hogue grips have a bit of give to them, and allow a VERY sticky grip. The G10 grips have about the hardness of finished wood, tho have the grip of unfinished wood in the hands.
Jay started out with some mouse-fart .38 loads from Zercool, I’ll let him chime in on the load data, but watching others shoot the gun, I’d assume they were 158 gr. heading down range in the vacinity of 750 FPS.
I have a .38 Gun, and I’ve shot creampuff loads through it. I had no such interest in re-creating the experience with a gun I don’t get to shoot very often. The picture is my blue dot load pushing a 158 grain jacketed bullet in the vicinity of 1400fps. There are MUCH hotter loads out there, but these are fun.
Actually the VZ Grips are better. Its still a handfull, and I don’t recommend shooting more than 20 full-house loads in a string as you’ll be cramping your hand pretty badly at that point. Jay and I suspect the grips let you hold the gun tighter and get a bit better hold.
Still as you can see, muzzle flip is PRONOUNCED! Also this load I cooked up for my Colt Trooper .357 which is all-steel. Recoil is quite manageable with that gun. I don’t get super aggressive with my crimping for fear of problems cropping up, so when this load worked fine on my gun, I went with it and loaded up about 500 rounds (a stock I need to replenish soon!), but with the snubbie every few wheels the 5th round jumps the crimp and needs to be ejected.
Maybe a LITTLE more crimping would be in order for the next batch!
Thanks Jay for snapping that great picture!
I don’t like high-heeled shoes. My wife is quite pleased that I demand she NOT wear them. Whenever I see a woman in heels all I can think of is how uncomfortable that looks while I stand around in my flat soled shoes. Even my Dress shoes are comfortable. Heels just look painful…well they ARE!
A woman allegedly beat her boyfriend to death with the spiked heel of a stiletto shoe.
Wow! Will you join me in demanding a ban on high-heeled shoes? I mean you can’t hunt in them…or walk on the beach.
h/t Maddmedic
The blogger shoot was AWESOME! First up the weather was PERFECT! It was POURING when I woke up, and I guess it was raining all day back home, but we had sun most of the day in New Hampshire. As many said “God Loves Gunnies”.
BTW Zercool’s 3.5″ Buckshot was damn unpleasant! I’ve shot 3″ buckshot out of my Mossberg, and it puts a LOT of ordinance on target, but doesn’t seem to me to be worth the punishment. 3.5″ shells are downright unpleasant. Its not the amount of recoil, but the sharpness of it, its very hard to keep the shotgun firmly affixed to your shoulder pocket. It just walked ALL OVER my shoulder.
There was a big turnout, Jay and I didn’t get an exact count, but there were a LOT of people, and all were ear-to-ear grins. Not as much NFA this year. Wally had his collection, and there were a few odds and ends. Still .223 .22 LR, and 9mm (supressed) full-auto was quite the treat, as well as the 57mm Recoiless.
Targets were the usual water jugs and stuffed animals, but the special “Guest” was this:
That’s a pink Gorilla wearing a UN helmet. It was QUITE enjoyable to poke holes in that blue monstrosity, and the Gorilla was quite the reactive plushie. Most stuffed animals just eat rounds and subtly flatten out over time. This guy would occasionally EXPLODE in a shower of stuffing.
Really the BIG star of the day was Old NFO’s FN SCAR-17, its a damn good gun on paper, but it is also just as good in reality.
Such a good time, and great to meet the few new faces, and awesome to see the old friends again.
Also I’d like to say that Borepatch, and Lissa who have both moved down south were greatly missed. I know you guys were there in spirit!
Such a great event, thanks so much to Buddy Jay who organized the weekend’s festivites, and Doubletrouble and Mrs. Doubletrouble for lending their home and their range to all sorts of crazy gunnies with machine guns!
Also with multiple machine-guns dozens of more mundane guns, and countless rounds flying down range, the only injuries were a few cuts from the sharp edges of the UN Helmet, and I got a gouge in my hand from attempting to slap Wall’s AMT Longslide into battery. Sorry Wally, it was gross:
Wally: “Uh Weer’d, I think that’s piece of you on the rear sight…”
Weer’d, picking off bit of hand from the sight notch: “OMG, I’m so sorry, that’s wicked gross!!”
Man what a good time, but strangely enough, I’m REALLY tired!
