NYC Shooting Video

Here’s the video, and it is neither dramatic nor dynamic

No sound and no muzzle flash or smoke can be seen, but it does look like the killer pulled his gun before police fired. Does not look like he fired, but that doesn’t matter.

Still looks like shooting range was about 8 feet for officer one, and maybe 15 feet for officer two. Neither officers or suspect took cover or evasive action (tho officer two did do a good job at getting off the line and putting distance between himself and the shooter).

I doubt we’ll get a straight story from this ever, but it looks like some fairly bad shooting to me.

Compare that with this, and I’m even less impressed

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0 Responses to NYC Shooting Video

  1. HerrBGone says:

    No comparison. The civilian in the second video actuality knows how to use his tools. And the cops fired how many shots at that range to take the critter down?

    BTW: Fun Squirrel Report the other night!

    • Weerd Beard says:

      Cops fired seven and nine rounds. Much more than than the older gentleman’s Taurus holds. (Its 6+1, so he fended off TWO attackers in a much more dynamic shooting with at the MOST the amount ONE officer fired, with no hits on friendlies)

      Glad you liked the show, it was one of the most fun ones we’ve done! The Callers 100% made it!

  2. Alan says:

    I was told on FB that I’m an idiot and don’t know what I’m talking about for saying that cops are notoriously bad shots.

    There are still a lot of people out there operating under the “Cops are well trained” myth.

    • Jack says:

      It’s on the same order as the “More guns more crime.” Myth.

      It’s a simple slogan that a person can hold onto without much thought.

      The idea of “cops are well trained” falls neatly into that faith in authority, uniforms, badges, and forms.

    • Bill Baldwin says:

      Maybe they weren’t bad shots, maybe they were just trying to increase the ‘gun death’.

      Aliyah Imam tells Fox 5 News that she was standing at a red light when a woman standing next to her fell to the ground. She says the woman was hit in the hip and that the gunman was “shooting indiscriminately at people.” source

      We know that she can’t be talking about the killer, because he walked up to his victim and shot him three (or four) times and then quit shooting, so she must have been talking about the police officer(s)

    • Weerd Beard says:

      Yep, also people watch movies and watch the news. In the movies the cops ALWAYS get into a shootout, and unless its a comedy the cops are good shots. Also when cops get into a shooting it makes the news. People just assume that cops lug that gun around all the time because they just might use it.

      Meanwhile it doesn’t take a cop long on the job to know that the majority of their job is doing traffic stops, busting teens smoking weed or drinking underage, breaking up loud parties, or breaking up domestic disputes.

      Doesn’t take them long to figure out that most cops never clear leather in the line of duty, and that learning to be good at shooting their sidearm isn’t that high on their list of things to do.

      Meanwhile anybody who’s a shooter can look up, and even replicate the cops qualifier, and many of us have showed up for a day of shooting at the club only to find the local five-oh has requisitioned the range for the annual qualifications, and you can WATCH at how easy it is.

      Neighbor’s kid got a high 90s score for the local qualification, and he said it really wasn’t that hard.

      I know most of the first-timers at the range are pretty close if not exceeding all the PD tests I’ve read about before they leave.

  3. Old NFO says:

    Bet they’re gonna WISH they’d spent more money on training before the lawsuits are over…

    • Weerd Beard says:

      I wonder. NYPD is HUGE, and they probably pay a MINT on their SWAT team. I wonder even if they end up shelling out 10 million for this little SNAFU if it will even add up to bother with GOOD training.

      Its like Edward Norton in Fight Club “If the Cost of the Projected Lawsuits are less than a recall…we don’t do one!”

  4. Cargosquid says:

    When I carried as a “certified” security guard for an armored car company…I was told NOT to shoot accurately on the qualifier, which consisted of keeping my rounds inside the 8 ring on this:

    I was told if I was accurate, and I ever shot someone, they would use a good score AGAINST me, that the lawyers for the innocent alter boy would ask why I just didn’t “wound” the poor innocent tyke instead of shooting center of mass.

    • Weerd Beard says:

      Wow! Dumb legal advise!

      Yeah just shoot them in the shoulder or the kneecap (likely with a .357 Magnum soft-point or SJHP) because Femoral and Brachial arteries don’t cause death when severed! Not to mention a solid knee hit might lead to amputation or permanent disability of the limb….

      • Cargosquid says:

        Of course, I didn’t pay any attention to them. But then, management types that DIDN’T carry a gun were…well…we went through 5 managers in 5 years.

        ’nuff said on that.

        Truthfully, I was worried about some of the employees more than any outside criminals.

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