Another Vicious Circle coming up!
No idea what the topic will be, but I got some beer and random noise makers so I’m good-to-go!
Join us?
Another Vicious Circle coming up!
No idea what the topic will be, but I got some beer and random noise makers so I’m good-to-go!
Join us?
Mostly because Les is awesome and I had a hell of a time hanging out with him in Pittsburgh.
But in this post over at Jay’s Les mentioned he served aboard the USS Ulysses S. Grant which led me to the Wikipedia page.
Go click over and look at the picture. Really neat shot, but left me with two HUGE questions.
Big #1, is one of those dudes you, Les?
and #2. What’s the point of having the sailors standing on the dive planes? Looks cool, but it seems sorta risky. I know its in sight of land, but from my own time offshore you learn pretty quick you do NOT want to go into the drink. Its one thing if you’re on a Boston Whaler that can turn on a dime, but when you’re on a Sub, or a Fishing boat towing gear, you might be in a drink for a while…and that’s if somebody sees you hit the drink!
Just thought I’d pass this one on, Seems that Penn State is producing a little video about safety in a School Shooting.
This is why the Penn State Human Resource Development Center (HRDC), along with University Police and the Penn State Risk Management Office, has created an hour-long program that provides people with instructions and options in case an active shooter was to ever open fire on campus. “Five OUTS: Surviving an Active Shooter” was designed to create awareness, to encourage our campus to support safety….
1. GET OUT of the area to somewhere safe. Leave the room and go in the opposite direction from any shooter.
2. CALL OUT to 911. Give as many details about what you saw or heard and your current location. Do not assume that someone else has called – you may have new information for the police.
3. HIDE OUT. If you can not leave, turn out the lights of the room you are in, and hide until help arrives. Avoid hallways, turn your cell phone on silent, and remain as quiet as possible.
4. KEEP OUT. Lock, block, or barricade the door with any available furniture.
5. TAKE OUT. This is a last resort when you have no other option, this is the life or death situation. Attempt to take out the shooter however you can.
Well since they analyzed the Virginia Tech shooting, and there’s a LOT of information on that day freely available, let’s have a look:
#1. The shooter chained the exit doors to the hall. There was no way for the police to easily get in, no way for victims to easily get out. Some people did manage to escape injury by exiting from windows. Good advice, but depending on the situation it may not be possible.
#2. 911 was called by many people that day, including Collin Goddard who was shot. I would only call 911 if you have some time on your hands. You probably won’t if a spree shooting is going on around you.
#3. Many people hid that day, including Collin Goddard, who was shot. Think of a classroom or an office or other such area where a shooter may be. How good a hiding place can you find? We’re not talking Die Hard here, you won’t be able to sneak into an air duct or atop an elevator. Somebody looking to kill people WILL look under desks and in closets. Reminds me of my favorite Jeff Cooper quote: “An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is
not overcome by fleeing from it.” If you do hide from an shooter, anybody else who also doesn’t hide may be shot in your place. If you’re lucky the shooter will move on or die before they find you….but a lot of people were found and shot. Not a good option, unless you are using concealment and cover for an ambush….more on that later.
#4. This is good. Just like the blocking of doors allowed the shooter some time before Police entered the building, barricades and locked doors can help you. Help, not save. Dr. Liviu Librescu was shot through a barricaded door, but his selfless act did give much of his class time to jump from the window.
#5. This is frankly the best option if you can’t get to #1. All of the other methods have severe flaws, and are very passive in nature. If somebody is out to kill you KILL THEM BACK! The shooter at VT reloaded several times. That’s a moment when he could have easily become overwhelmed. This was exactly what stopped the Tuscon Shooting.
Of course #5 would be a whole lot better if the good guys were allowed guns when on campus….one wonders, if Cho shot himself as soon as the Police entered the building, even with ammo still on his person, what would he have done if he knew some students and teachers may have had guns in the building he locked himself into?
Be Safe People!
There are lots of people monkeying around trying to break the recession who obviously didn’t do well in their college Econ courses (or the College Econ Courses didn’t do a good job….I think I know where I’d place my bets)
Same goes for somebody trying to engineer a perpetual motion machine who obviously never grasped basic physics.
The really scary thing is these retards are getting all excited about solving the worlds energy problems, but never seem to grasp that shattering the laws of thermodynamics would be a much bigger nut to crack, and that if they had done just such a thing it would imply that they had achieved vastly more than perpetual energy. Of course that none of these goons even mention the laws of thermodynamics implies like Tam assumes, that he’s a con man.
It’s like inventing an anti-gravity device for the purposes of dropping a few pounds of the dial of the bathroom scale.
The fact that the bullshit flag doesn’t drop as soon as these hucksters open their mouths really makes me sad.
So Linoge leaves an interesting comment on the Out of Touch post.
I am frankly astonished that she would not plan for the potentiality that she might one day get trapped by the weather or stumble across someone who is so disabled. The gear I keep in my car (that needs to be upgraded sometime soon) is there for both me, and for the sake of anyone I might discover who needs it… not a charitable bone in that woman’s body, is there?
Reminds me of a story back when I was living in Portland. I had a roommate from Seattle who had taken a job at LL Bean in Freeport Maine. It was a REALLY snowy winter that year and she had never seen what us Mainers call “Real Snow”. She was working the midnight-to-god-knows-when shift in Freeport (about a half-hour north of Portland, for those who care), and this night it was snowing HARD. Knowing she hadn’t driven in nasty snow before, I asked if any of her coworkers lived near us. She said yes. So I told her I’d drive her into work, and let her get a ride home in the morning. So I poured a big cup of tea to keep me sharp and we saddled up my 4×4 truck and headed north. It was nasty but nothing I, and my truck couldn’t handle…but something that might be a challenge for somebody driving a rear-wheel-drive Audi, let alone somebody from the mild climate of the Pacific Northwest.
She was working in one of the warehouses which is a bit off the beaten path in the woods of Freeport (the main drag of the town is pretty built up, but like many Maine tourist towns as soon as you go off that drag and away from the highway it gets pretty rural FAST. I dropped her off and headed home. Well I hadn’t gone far when the tea was SCREAMING to get out. I didn’t feel like driving the whole way home with my legs crossed, so off a rural road I saw what looked like a country church with a wide parking lot. Planning to pull over there and pee on my back tire away from the road, I left the road.
**CLUNK** never actually looked to see if that WAS a Church or not, but I did see that what I THOUGHT was a driveway was in fact the ditch on the side of the road that had filled with snow and drifted perfectly flat. Well there was my place to pee, and after my mind was a bit clearer I planned my escape.
My truck did an OK job at making some progress, but because my wheel was cut my entry path was a curve, and my visability on the dark road was almost nothing. I backed up until the snow was well over my tailgate and I couldn’t push any further.
I walked the few feet back to the road and called AAA on my cellphone. That was an amusing call because I had NO idea what road I was on, and just gave the LL Bean Warehouse as the nearest landmark. They told me the local driver could probably find me. before I hung up a man in a full-size Chevy truck stopped and asked if he could help. I told AAA I’d call them back if I needed them but we were gonna give it a try.
This guy had towing straps in his truck so we quickly hitched the straps to my frame and he popped me out without too much effort. I thanked him, and he pretty much said it was nothing, and it could have happened to anybody, and we parted ways.
Now here’s the interesting thing. While I was standing in the snow many people drove by me. It was shift change at the warehouse so there was a good bit of traffic. Only this guy (who was prepared for anything) stopped.
Now I’m betting with a little looking the AAA driver could have found me, and I had cell reception so I could have called my Dad to at least pick me up and take me home and let me deal with retrieving my truck in the morning. I also had blankets, I had some tea and was obviously well hydrated, and I could always melt snow with my truck’s heater (only after clearing the snow from my tailpipe! Remember Carbon Monoxide poisoning when running a vehicle in a bad environment) for more liquid refreshments. I wasn’t more than 5-10 miles from the main drag and I could have hiked out with little effort if need-be.
Still how many people just drove by. They were probably on their way to work and didn’t want to be late from helping some yokel, or might be worried I was some predator staging a trap. Bubba in the truck probably had a gun on him…if he didn’t he’d be silly. I was unarmed except for a pocket knife because this was before I got my first guns, and still hadn’t warmed up to the whole concealed-carry thing.
I will say in the other driver’s defense I hadn’t run out of options yet so I wasn’t making any distress signals quite yet. But one must remember it can happen to ANYBODY and ANYWHERE. I thought I’d just be making a quick jaunt up to freeport, and I’d be warm and in my bed before I knew it. I was wrong.
What I wasn’t was afraid. It sucked being stuck, but in the end if I had to hunker down for the night I knew I’d be fine, and the chances of THAT were low because I was on the horn with AAA.
The antis talk about “Freedom from Fear”, well I’ll say, having options and plans are indeed freedom from fear. Be prepared, for it is your weapon against danger, and its brother Fear!
Obviously if you let people carry guns they will have petty arguments and kill everybody.
The customer became angry while in the checkout lane and began yelling and swearing. The employee asked him to leave the store.
As the two were talking toward the exit, the customer stabbed the employee once in the chest. A store security officer tackled the suspect and held him until police arrived.
The suspect’s criminal history in Minnesota includes serving prison time for felony theft.
Of course we need to ban knives too, people can’t be trusted with them either. Really freedom is just to dangerous to allow in public!
h/t Maddmedic
So I mentioned that while CSGV’s twitter account has been suspended, still they were doing the same violations on their Facebook page (Note I AM linking their Facebook page so people may look for offensive material they have grounds on)
Well Tango contacted Facebook about images they used and libelous posts they made, and got them pulled down!
Good work, Tango. And if you have images or libel on the CSGV or any other Brady or Joyce FB page, please follow what Tango did and get it taken down. If they want to post anti-gun propaganda, let them those arguments are easy to handle, if they want to post personal attacks that needs to be taken off the table.
Even if you haven’t been attacked by them, there is nothing STOPPING them from picking you next!
I will be delicate on this, but I want to talk about this. First I do NOT support “outing” members of the anti-rights movement. I will note that most of them, like Joan Peterson are paid employes and public lobbyists for the movement so there isn’t much to out. But there is their personal life, and it is NOT cool to look into their private life or the lives of their family.
That being said there’s this.
Dear readers,
A few of you have threatened to publish my home address somewhere. I consider this to be a personal threat to me and my family. I do check IP addresses and the town and state coming from the comment at a certain time so in case you think you are being clever, think again. I will report any such activity to law enforcement. What are you planning to do with that information? Will someone come around and try to shoot me or my family? Will I be under your survelance now? Will you be outside of my house monitoring my activities? Are you this paranoid? What are your intentions with such information? Mere intimidation or do you mean some sort of dangerous action?
Now I hope nobody does go that next step and publish her information, as that is wrong and rude, and frankly a bigot and irrational person like Joan Peterson, or the horrible hate-groups she works for present a big enough target that we have no need to go after her personally.
But it is interesting that Joan has always been in the front row cheering on CSGV doing EXACTLY what she’s so upset about.
Don’t like it when it happens to you, but its ok when it happens to “them”. I’ve observed that most anti-rights activists show clear signs of narcissistic personality disorder, and this is a clear example of the “Bad Boundaries” symptom.
Again, let’s keep this above the boards, we don’t need to play their games, we have far to many advantages on our side that there is NO need for personal attacks or personal information to be published. But I do appreciate that Joan has been given a taste of her own medicine, it appear on her own site where she can control the release of information.
Also with CSGV publishing people’s personal information, I will note that while they oppose gun ownership it does not mean they don’t own guns, and might not use them to shoot at US!
**UPDATE** New comment up:
Thank you 18Echo. It is the way in which the statement was issued that I consider a “threat”. I realize that information can be found about anyone on Google or other sites. But the tone of the 2 commenters who I could almost here their voices saying- Do you want me to publish your address? Huh, do you? I feel like I am having a discussion with vindicative kids and bullies. It does not lend inself to any kind of back and forth and is meant to stop discussion or intimidate me. I do appreciate a few of you who just attack my ideas or disagree with my ideas without going after me. Thanks for that.
If I hadn’t seen her “LIke” and comments on EVERY SINGLE CSGV Facebook page posting people’s personal information and making libelous statements, I’d think she was unaware of it.
…but she is, and she sees nothing wrong with it…so long as its US being attacked.
So the CSGV lockout is stirring up some interesting blog posts. I direct you to Sean.
In their quote above, CSGV gives away their game. CSGV isn’t interested in guns and gun ownership per se, they are concerned with the idea that people like us might tell people like them to leave us alone, and we might use our guns to enforce that demand. CSGV’s leadership wants to remake the US into a
Communist Socialist DemocratProgressive country. They fear that we may not be interested in theirCommunist Socialist DemocratProgressive message, and we might even shoot at them when they come and demand that we get onboard. We’ve all been told by wild eyed gun rights fanatics that gun control is just one of the steps in imposing Communism. We all laughed and ignored that warning. Now read that CSGV quote again. Not so silly anymore, is it?
According to Sean’s reading CSGV strikes him as more of a left-wing progressive/socialist group that’s using gun control as a means to an end. (A little like how I discovered that GOA is simply a Republican front group using Gun control for political leverage.)
But in no way are ANY gun control advocates interested in stopping at banning guns. Just look at the UK. They have no gun rights, knife bans, no search and seizure rights, and they are under constant government surveillance. They live in a Police State.
Now it might be considered controversial to call the UK a Police state (but only if you don’t think about it) but let’s look at honest-to-god Police States, like the USSR. Now in the USSR they had all the stupid UK anti-freedom laws, plus you could be tossed in jail for speaking out against the Communist party.
Let’s look at China. I could write 1,000 words, but the adage is true!

We all know the story here. You can even watch videos on it on youtube. But in all the videos and news stories the best name for this world renown figure is “Tank Man”. Why? Nobody knows his name, and most likely he was imprisoned, tortured, and executed. Also for such a huge demonstration what was accomplished by the Tiananmen Square protest? NOTHING.
Why, because when the government has the monopoly on force human rights do NOT exist unless they are GRANTED by the government.
Gandhi was a prime example of an exception that proves the rule. What stopped the British government from tossing Mr. Gandhi into a prison for 70 years, or shooting him in the head?
Answer: The British stopped that from happening. He lived to see free India because they LET him live. It was their mercy. Most military dictatorships are not so compassionate.
I’ll end with a quote from Robb:
It’s cliché but it’s true; It’s not about guns, it’s about control. And the progressive mindset seeks to enslave you to an all powerful state, for your own good as you are too stupid to do it yourself. It is rather difficult to corral people into the boxcars though when they can shoot your ass.
As soon as we cede our rights to keep and bear arms, there is NOTHING to stop us from losing our other rights.
From Joan, of the Brady Campaign, Joyce Foundation, and the Million Mom March.
No I don’t carry a sleeping bag in my car. No I have never been stranded on a road at night. I try not to be driving out in places away from traffic late at night. That is how I suppose I have survived as long as I have. I really don’t know anyone who carries a sleeping bag in their car. Band aids and first aid kit, yes. It’s a wonder I’m still alive isn’t it???
How about that “I try not to be driving out in places away from traffic late at night” bit. This is the standard issue “Let them Eat Cake” idea of the anti-freedom crowd. THEY live in all-white gated communities of affluent limousine liberals, so they don’t need guns. Those poor single Moms living in a high-rise in an inner city with a next door neighbor whose prime vocation is “Slinging Crack Rock”, well she should just move out to the Hamptons, where things are much safer!
I have thankfully never been stranded, but I’ve come close a few times. I don’t carry a sleeping bag, but I do have a TON of blankets in the back of my truck (mostly used to protect goods from bouncing around, or if I need something to lay down if I need to crawl under my truck….but they can be used for insulation. I also have a mylar space blanket that rolls up really small, and those bastards will get you SWEATING, especially if you close yourself off in the passenger compartment of your vehicle. I don’t have food or water, but that’s only because I don’t offroad, so in all the places I might get stuck I shouldn’t be more than 48 hours alone, and for that I can do without food, and in New England water isn’t really scarce.
But note the matter-of-fact nature of her statement. In the blog she claims that somebody with a gun and a first-aid kit was “Planning something big”….I also have a first aid kit in my truck too….and a gun. I’m planning on going to work….is that big?
Also Joan’s never seen anybody stranded? Hasn’t seen anybody, or will never HELP anybody who’s stranded.
Frankly that’s wise if you’re a meek old liberal who doesn’t carry a gun….