More Anti-Rights Tin-Ears

Gotta love this anti-rights mentality:

Ladd admits “More training is better”, but you’ll never see them endorse any training, and if they get wind of any solid combat/self defense shooting they’ll condemn it as “insurrectionist”

And of course the “Homicidal Maniac” he’s talking about is the guy who murdered his boss in New York. Of course reality is he bought his gun in 1991 in Florida, and apparently spent the last few decades keeping his nose clean. Sure he illegally brought a gun into NYC, but nobody caught him with it. I haven’t committed any crimes in my 33 years of life, by their standards I’m a “Homicidal Maniac” too. So are they.

Also in the same thread Ladd praises police training, but noting a “reality” where only 30% of all shots are landed, but never a mention in THOUSANDS of defensive gun uses is there ANYTHING like this police shooting done at the hands of a CCW holder attempting to neutralize a hostile threat.

Joan patters about the same thing:

Gun permit holders wouldn’t have shot any of the injured because they are better shots and better trained than police officers. To even think or say that is ludicrous and strains the bounds of credulity. According to the above article, police had a split second decision to make when Johnson aimed his gun at them. There are so many shootings and shootings of officers that their reaction is to not natural in order to protect the public from more bullets but also to protect themselves. Officers lives are on the line every day. Armed citizens do not face the same kind of every day life threatening situations faced by our law enforcement officers. Though we all know that police officers are not immune from over reacting or using force when not needed, those are rare cases. Officers are trained in tactical techniques and are also in better physical condition than ordinary citizens to handle situations such as that presented to them in New York City.

Let’s talk some about training requirements for gun permit holders. Here is an article about the differences between states for training to carry a loaded gun around in public

Except officers don’t face this crap every day either…if they did they might take an interest in learning to shoot, and demand more training from the department. Officers DO face more threats than armed citizens only because its their JOB to answer dangerous calls, while its our job to protect ourselves, our loved ones, and get home safely.

Still most cops never need to draw their gun in the line of duty, and to claim that somehow police are battle-hardened soldiers is foolish. This is also the reason why police shootings go so poorly as a whole. They simply aren’t called to shoot very often, and most of their duties aren’t that dangerous, and when they’re in REAL danger is when they’re on the highway from CARS not bullets. So training is meager, and extra-curricular training is rare.

Meanwhile people who go to the trouble to BUY a gun, and PAY for a permit, are self-selected, so they frequently train and practice. Even a fair-weather shooter puts more rounds down range than most officers.

This is why you never see such horrible friendly fire incidents from a lawful carrier.

Of course they’ll never admit that because they want to disarm you. Same reason why they won’t note that some people are just bad, and all the laws in the world won’t stop them. That’s as good a reason to always be armed as any.

Carry your damn guns, people!

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Criminals and Guns

I generally stay away from this troll, but I thought this was too good to pass up:

What’s the significance of this comment? You haven’t read this post, have you?

But here’s a personal story which was part of our Great Gun Survey a few months ago. Once upon a time, friends of mine in Los Angeles found themselves under threat. They drove across the desert to Vegas and in a couple hours bought a shotgun and a revolver, went back to LA to face the trouble, which I’m happy to report resulted in nothing. The guy in Vegas who actually bought the guns said he only had to show a driver’s license, and I suppose he knew the laxity of the Nevada laws was such that he didn’t have to worry about what happened after he sold the weapons to my friends for cash….Back in those days I knew two guys who worked in L.A., good friends of mine. They got themselves into some trouble, basically it was a misunderstanding, but their lives were threatened by some connected people. What did they do? They came over to Vegas to get guns, of course. For a couple hundred bucks they picked up an old revolver-type pistol, I guess it could be called a Saturday night special, and a six-shot pump action shotgun, the kind referred to as a riot gun. I don’t remember the details of how legal these transactions were. A couple days later, back in the jungles of L.A., whenever exiting their home or place of business, the one guy would go first with the handgun at his side, finger on the trigger I suppose, and the other guy, the main target, would warily follow holding the loaded shotgun at his side in its cloth case with his finger on the safety button, ready to press it, swing the gun up, feel for the trigger and fire through the carrying case. Somehow, no one got killed or injured. Whatever happened to the weapons, you may ask? The pistol no one remembers what happened, but the shotgun was in the trunk of a car that was stolen in Miami about a year after those guys made it out of L.A. The car was recovered, but of course the shotgun was gone along with the tape deck and spare tire. I wonder what mischief that gun got up to in the subsequent years.

Bob makes a pretty good case that Sparky’s “Friends” were him and his associates, and judging by Mike’s backstory it was likely for the dealing of illegal drugs. Why doesn’t he think a California resident would need a background check when buying guns in Nevada? Easy because he didn’t.

He also didn’t obey the law. But he thinks we all should, and the professional gun banners stand behind criminals like him. They are pro-criminal. Only LAWFUL gun owners are a concern to them.

Hell how do you think I found this comment? Why from Joan Peterson’s sidebar of course:

(Jason Kilgore of Cease Fire Oregon links him too!)

Hey but why should laws apply to them?

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Why Would You Need a Gun At a Convetion?

Because violent “Progressives” might be there too!

A man with a machete was arrested Sunday while walking with a group of “Occupy Tampa” protesters near the Republican National Convention, police say…..When deputies caught up to him, police say he said told them he did not have to stop and that he was allowed to carry whatever he wanted. Weapons are prohibited in areas police have designated as “event zones.”

Police say Wilson of Tallahassee resisted arrest but was subdued and taken to the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office. He faces charges of carrying a prohibited item in the event zone and resisting arrest.

I’m SHOCKED! an “Occupy” Protestor carrying a deadly weapon! Also note how he resisted arrest and needed to be “subdued”. But why would people at the Republican convention want to carry a gun?

Yeah, carry your damn guns!

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And How Will Gun Laws Help This?

This story shows the fallacy of adding new gun control laws:

“For your ’hood, you can’t stop [getting] guns because it’s war season. A gang need any gun it can get,” said the teen, who has worked as an informant for police and asked for anonymity. The Sun-Times is identifying him by an alias.

‘Gun guys’

He knows men whose full-time job in the underground economy is to buy guns from suburban stores and illegally sell them to criminals.

Chris calls them the “gun guys.” The cops have another name for them: “straw purchasers.”

“Gun guys” have clean records allowing them to obtain Illinois firearm owner’s identification cards. With FOID cards, they can legally buy guns at stores in the suburbs.

Then they illegally sell them to gang members banned from owning guns because of their criminal backgrounds.

Most of the guns recovered in crimes in Chicago were bought in suburban gun stores, according to a new University of Chicago Crime Lab study of police gun-trace data.

The police sometimes interview the people who originally bought the guns. Often, police are simply told the guns were stolen from them.

But authorities say most straw purchasers are lying when they say their guns were stolen. It’s hard to catch them unless they confess to the crime.

“It can be a man or a girl, but it’s mainly a guy,” Chris said of the straw purchasers he knows. “Somebody that got a gun license, they buy the gun, scratch off the serial number and sell it to you.”

Ok so here we have illegally purchasing a gun (buying a gun so you can illegally resell it is a federal felony), actually SELLING the know knowingly to a prohibited person is a federal felony, also defacing the serial number is a federal felony….also very stupid as those numbers can be revealed in a crime lab, so you just did something for nothing.

Also I like the “They say it was stolen, but they’re lying”. Well if you’re running a business of straw buying under the cover of break-ins, you’ll start building a case for the cops to watch you and catch you in all these serious crimes. Its called police work and due process. We don’t need more laws, we need cops doing their jobs. Also the irony comes from this:

But Chris doesn’t sling dope. He doesn’t have a job. He doesn’t have the money to pay a “gun guy.”

So he and his crew look elsewhere for guns.

Stealing ‘gats’…Chris said one major source of guns in his neighborhood was a ring that burglarized suburban gun stores.

In January, one of those stores, Maxon Shooters Supply & Indoor Range in northwest suburban Des Plaines, was looted of about 200 guns after thieves broke in with a sledgehammer, police said.

Lots of those guns wound up in the hands of gangs on the South Side — including people Chris knows.

“They sold people the guns — and when those people got caught, they snitched,” he said.

So people claim their guns were stolen, and the cops call bullshit, but this “expert witness” openly admits that stolen guns is a good black market source. Gotta love how anti-rights people LOVE to contradict themselves.

Oh yeah, and breaking and entering, stealing, and dealing in stolen goods are all serious crimes, some federal, some universal locally.

The anti-rights cult want to pass more laws to stop things that are already criminal.

Its almost like their goals AREN’T to stop crimes, just to ban guns and inconvenience lawful gun owners….but why would I think that?

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Anti-Gun Totality

The antis may claim the police are the “Only Ones” who can carry guns…but they really want to disarm them all.

Baltimore Police have shot 10 people this year — eight of them fatally — leading some to question whether police are properly equipped to handle calls involving the mentally ill.

Only one of those shot was carrying a firearm, and several shooting incidents arose from calls to police about a disturbance involving someone with a mental illness. Relatives of some of those killed criticized police tactics, saying they shouldn’t have lost loved ones after calling police to defuse situations that had ended peacefully in the past.

“They need better training with mental cases,” said Candace Church, 29, whose brother David Yim was shot in April. “They’re treating mental patients like criminals, and they’re not criminals.”

The most recent shooting occurred Saturday, when a 63-year-old man was killed by officers who had been called to the 1600 block of W. Lexington St. to investigate a 911 call for a burglary.

Neighbors and friends said the victim, Rudolph Bell, was a homeless veteran who had recently emerged from a Veterans Affairs program and was affectionately known around the neighborhood as “Mr. Rudy.” But police said he attacked an officer with a knife or bottle, cutting the officer on the face and narrowly missing his eye…..At least three of the people shot by police this year were not reported to have had any weapon at all. Five were reported to have had a knife or “edged object,” while one drove at an officer. Only Devonte Bowman, 31, who was fatally shot July 14 in Northwest Baltimore, was reported to have had a gun…..Marcella Holloman said her son, Maurice Johnson, took medication for bipolar disorder but hadn’t had an episode in several years. Family members called police May 19 after Johnson got upset at a children’s birthday party at their Northeast Baltimore home and began throwing things. She watched as police fatally shot him during a struggle that sent an officer crashing through a glass table….n 2010, 10 people were shot by officers, two fatally. At least six of the victims had firearms, according to the records. Of the others, one victim was a child struck by an errant bullet when an officer fired at an aggressive pit bull; another officer shot at a moving vehicle; and a third victim was shot when a man advanced on him with a burglary tool.

This article reads like “Baltimore Police are Trigger Happy and Poorly Trained”, but most of the stories cited cops were in immediate danger of severe or life-threatening injury. This is one of those anti-rights magical thinking. That somehow you ONLY need a gun to protect from others with guns. This is why some people think George Zimmerman is guilty of murder. Because somehow getting your head bashed against the pavement isn’t a deadly threat!

Yeah, so here’s another reason to shame those cops who stand up for the Anti-rights lobby groups. They think they’re safe, but they really aren’t!

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How “Progressive” of You

Gotta love how ironically arrogant “Progressives” can be:

The state Supreme Court has made it clear that the University of Colorado can’t stop students with concealed-carry permits from bringing their guns to campus. But the chairman of the Boulder Faculty Assembly says if he ever discovers that any of his students are armed, class is over.

CU physics professor Jerry Peterson — speaking for himself Monday, not the faculty group he leads — said he wants his students to feel safe to engage in classroom discussions that could be controversial.

“My own personal policy in my classes is if I am aware that there is a firearm in the class — registered or unregistered, concealed or unconcealed — the class session is immediately canceled,” Peterson said. “I want my students to feel unconstrained in their discussions.”

OK so first even if you WANT to register your gun in Colorado YOU CAN’T, so that shows where this guy is working in knowledge of a subject he’s making a scene about. Still notice that he wants to “Engage in classroom discussions” by cancelling class!

Also he’s a PHYSIC professor. Maybe students want to just have class, and given that its a SCIENCE class, I best most people know better than he does about the “dangers” of lawfully armed citizens, and anybody with a functioning brain cell can see the fallacy of “Gun Free Zone” schools. I mean Columbine, Virginia Tech, Norther Illinois, among many others were all “Gun Free” schools, and had people getting murdered.

But yeah, I took physics courses in college…and I took them because I wanted to learn Physics and get my credits. Not listen to an uppity moonbat foster his unrelated political beliefs on us.

And he’s “fostering discussion” by cancelling class? Is that like “Demanding discussion” by gagging somebody, or “going for a run” by breaking somebody’s knees?

This is what “Progressives” pass off as “Thinking”.

NICE!

**UPDATE** via Erin, No he can’t

University of Colorado Chancellor Phil DiStefano notified the Boulder campus faculty Tuesday afternoon that professors “do not have the right to shut down a class or refuse to teach” should they learn that one of their students is lawfully carrying a gun under a concealed-carry permit.

And, DiStefano added, any faculty members who do so will be in violation of their contracts and face disciplinary action.

DiStefano’s message comes a day after Professor Jerry Peterson, chairman of the Boulder Faculty Assembly, told the Daily Camera that, under his own “personal policy,” he plans to cancel class if he ever learns any of his students are carrying firearms. A Colorado Supreme Court ruling this spring overturned CU’s Boulder campus gun ban, and university officials say that students with conceal-carry permits are allowed to bring guns into classrooms and labs.

Not sure if this “Disciplinary action” is enough to terminate a tenured professor, but from personal experience I’ve seen what the administration can do to a tenured professor who’s making an ass of himself and the university. I suspect this statement will be enough to shut down his little snit.

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Ted Kennedy THE MOVIE!

When watching the Kennedys Minieseres I was amazed that they simply wrote Teddy right out of history!

It was a great series, and surprisingly balanced, just I was surprised that the film talks so much about Old Joe, Joe Jr., Jack, and Bobby, and even has a chapter on Rosemary, but no Teddy.

Well that’s all I could think about when I saw this trailer:

I mean the car didn’t go OFF the bridge, but close enough!

Yeah Richard Gere and Susan Sarandon are well past their sell-by date, and the movie probably will be lame. Still I thought I’d share my observations with you!

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“Gun Death” Chef

From Australia, where guns are heavily restricted, as are knives.

A 22-year-old apprentice chef has died after being stabbed during a brawl at a bus interchange at Parramatta in Sydney’s west, police say.

Patrick Crowe had been on the way home from a night out with two male friends when his group was confronted by four to five males on Argyle Street about 2am today, police said.

Those who corrupt the Bible might be smug and say “those who live by the knife, die by the knife”, but really the truth is no law eliminates evil. Hey, but Australia has low “Gun Death”!

h/t Sean

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Wake Up Indeed!

This is just so myopic it needs to be discussed:

First up I have no idea. If we want to use anti-rights standards, countries that have full prohibitions on alcohol (like Muslim Theocracies where alcohol is a sin) they probably have a much lower rate of alcoholism and drunk driving. We also know what bastions of safety and human rights they are.

Still look at CSGV Utopias like Chicago, New York, California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and DC. Super safe wonderful places, right? There really aren’t any places in my home state of Maine I’d be worried about walking after dark, there are lots of places in my state of residence of Massachusetts where I’d be worried about walking in broad daylight.

CSGV likes these states because they have gun laws similar to Prohibition era. What do we know about prohibition era? It was SUPER safe and good! The gangs made HUGE money selling illegal hooch, they bought Police and politicians. There were shootings and bombings of speakeasies, and of course we had police stumbling upon parties of dead people who were drinking toxic home-brew.

Now fast forward to today. ANYBODY who isn’t otherwise prohibited (most people on probation aren’t allowed to drink, and of course under age people) can buy booze by simply flashing an ID or just looking old enough. (Back when I tended bar I only checked ID maybe 10 percent of the time, and people close to 21 would simply flash their ID as soon as they came to the counter), you can buy “high capacity” martinis and shots, or “low capacity” beers (or high capacity beers severed in MASSIVE glasses). You can keep booze in your home, you can transport booze to friend’s houses for a party. There are laws like public intoxication (which are mostly selectively enforced) drunk driving, and furnishing to minors. These are punished when caught.

There are no permits, no licenses, no training, and certainly no registration. I can go buy one can of beer at the store, or I can buy a cart filled with 30 packs and gallon jugs, the only difference is how much I pay and how much effort it is to load it in my car. Having sealed containers in a car is no cause for police concern.

Ladd is of course just lying, because this is the LAST thing he wants. What he WANTS is the days of Al Capone and the Southern Moonshiners to return.

This is why we will NEVER give them an inch!

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Good For Them

President Obama? No Thanks!

The University of Virginia says it has declined a request from President Barack Obama’s campaign to hold an event on the Charlottesville campus next week.

In a statement released Friday, the school said officials met with members of the campaign about using one of its outdoor venues on Wednesday.

In denying the request, university officials said holding the event there would cause the cancellation or disruption of classes on the second day of the semester and the use of either site would require closing adjacent buildings for the entire day. Those were the only two places on campus that the campaign had requested.

Now I won’t go so far as to say they’re snubbing the President, he’s just asking a tall order, and they aren’t willing to deal. Plus “Progressives” and Conservatives can both agree he’s been a lousy president. So yeah, they’ll just have class and go about their day!

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