So here’s another story of an alleged gun owner who wants to ban guns talking about how to win the debate:
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How to Win an Argument With a Gun Nut EVERY Time!
Posted by: Richard Rowe in Op-Ed, The Gun Control Debate November 15, 2013
I’m a gun owner and enthusiast. My owning/firing credentials include everything from AK-47, AR-15, SPAS-12 and Dragunov to Barrett 50 cal, an original German Sturmgewehr, pistols, a couple of flamethrowers, and at least one radio-controlled A-10 equipped with a site camera and full-auto BB gun. We called it “The PredaHog.” Call it a byproduct of having been raised in Central Florida, or maybe just a gearhead affinity for machines of purpose — but I do love cool weapons.
PredaHogs aside, I’m also one of the 88% of gun owners who think that our weapons policies should periodically evolve(!) from the peerless Garden of Eden that was 1776. That, the fact that I live dead-center in StandYourGroundsville, FL and the that I write for AATTP brings me into pretty regular conflict with some of the nuttiest gun nuts out there. Case in point, CJ Grisham, of Open Carry Texas.
OCT’s made a bit of news lately, from helping to organize the Alex Jones-attended gun orgy at the Alamo last month, to more recently standing their ground against a few unarmed, female gun reform advocates last week. After having been thoroughly, and rightly, demonized by myself and others for this blatant act of intimidation, CJ posted an invitation to publicly debate Ms. Watts of Mothers Demand Action. Here’s an excerpt from it:
“We will also accept the Texas Chapter President of MDA if Shannon doesn’t feel intelligent or confident enough to handle an open debate. OCT will NOT be open carry at the event so MDA can feel safe and secure in its ignorance and false sense of safety.”
CJ kindly left his email at the bottom, so I decided to take him up on the offer with a recorded, public debate on Skype. CJ, brave and wise warrior that he was, repeatedly dodged the bullet; apparently, he’s not comfortable talking to people who don’t express fear of him. After several exchanges, his ever-changing excuses included:
“No thanks. Our offer was to MDA since they have defamed our organization with lies.” (as opposed to defaming it with the truth?)
Then: “We are only extending the offer to anti-gun groups.”
…And then, of course, “Shall not be infringed.”
I retorted several times that I’ve personally defamed OCT plenty over the last couple of weeks to tens of thousands of people a day, and that the majority of AATTP’s audience (which is about 200,000 times larger than MDA) is as anti-gun as it gets. I practically BEGGED him to openly debate… but, my not being an unarmed woman, he declined.
Aside from getting some laughs at another brave Second Amendment soldier, I mention this exchange to make a specific point. These people only understand fear. Without intimidation, without the illusion of superiority, they’re just firing blanks. They’re brave target-shooters, but suddenly develop wet pants when the target is prepared to fire back.
Below is a list of my most frequently fired shots: the rounds I keep in my chamber for the daily firefight that is being a (somewhat) sensible gun enthusiast. Not all of them are going to take down the target. Half of these people have such thick heads, a 30 mm cannon wouldn’t penetrate. But they’ll at least feel these hits, and that’s usually all it takes to send them running. Some are statistical responses, some are just observations I like to use.
(PS: Last word to CJ Grisham, OCT or anyone else from any gun psycho group: You’re a b****, everyone in your organization is a b****, and real cowboys come from Florida.)
BASIC DOs AND DON’Ts
DO understand that there are lots of different types of gun owners. Some have them for protection, and some are gearheads who just like them as machines. Some people collect certain types of guns because they’re cool, and others just like stuff that’s loud, spits fire and blows holes in things. Often, a gun enthusiast is some combination of all of these.
DON’T lump the above gun owners in with the “Second Amendment” crowd. These 2A people own guns primarily because they feel inadequate, and live in fear because of it. They’re terrified of meeting an equal, and will almost always run from a fight if they don’t have a clear advantage going in.
DO remember at all times that these 2A people live in a state of constant fear, and they resent others who don’t. They’re going to do everything they can do to make others feel the same way they do.
DON’T bother with the “phallic symbol” thing. They don’t understand what it means, and the “inadequacy” they feel is a bit more layered than that. They might feel inadequate physically, but it may just as easily be mental or emotional. Often, they feel unprepared to compete in the modern world… because they are.
DO call them out on their fear, weakness and inadequacy…but BE EMPATHETIC. Be SYMPATHETIC about their shortcomings. It’s the one thing they absolutely cannot stand. Especially when you point out that the gun itself only proves their fear, weakness and sense of inadequacy. Make them face their demons, and force them to regard the gun itself as a symbol of their fear. Do that, and they’ll eventually come to hate it on principle.
So got that? Don’t lump all gun owners together, know that there are different types. Good point! Also DO lump them all together as stupid, fearful people with no valid argument for gun ownership!
BTW, does this also apply to the author who allegedly owns several guns?
There is plenty more to fisk, but unfortunately I don’t have the time still this one needs to be called out:
“Gun regulations are a slippery slope…GUN GRABBING IS NEXT!”
The United States passed its first gun control laws prior to the Civil War, criminalizing possession of firearms by blacks. Be honest, what’s your opinion on THAT one?
Gun regulations have existed in the United States for about 150 years, evolving many times since then to cover machine guns, assault rifles, Saturday Night Specials and undetectable firearms. And you can still carry an AR-15 around with a .45 in your back pocket.
A little pejorative, still this guy is legitimate about wanting a debate, because in the comments the author said:
he gun nuts are partially right…if we instituted a gun ban today, only the legally compliant owners would turn them in. It would be like turning the wolves loose in the henhouse. Over the long term…yeah, EVENTUALLY all or almost all of the guns would get confiscated. But that could take 100 years with all the guns out there now. In the meantime, we’d probably wind up turning everywhere in America into a maximum security prison to protect an unarmed populace.
If we’d have instituted a ban 100 years ago, I don’t doubt we’d be fine today. But Pandora’s box has already been opened, and too many evils have escaped. Slamming the lid now isn’t going to do much good. Sad fact is, we’re just going to have to slowly ramp things down, or all Hell’s going to break loose.
My suggestion is the same now as it’s always been…put a $200 or 20% tax on all new guns, and use the money to start buying back old guns at a little over market value for disposal. Least that’ll reduce the number of gun enough that we can seriously begin re-thinking the second amendment.
So we should trust him, he’s not a “Gun Grabber” like the rest….he just wants to put a massive tax on all guns and start grabbing them… Man that’s too rich.
Also “We need to re-think the Second Amendment”, and yet never once does he talk about self defense. He does talk about the whole “Tyrannical Government will kill you with drones…so just give up now”, which I think has been pretty well debunked in Iraq and Afghanistan, but never about the softer side of the true Second Amendment, that we have the right to shoot violent criminals.
He does talk a little about spree shooters, but again falls into the anti-gun trope that somehow if bad guys don’t have guns, then good guys would NEVER need guns. Yeah, we know about “Gun Death”.
So dive into this one. Also to Mr. Richard Rowe, you are welcome in my comments section to discuss this issue with other rational gun owners. Please leave a comment!
