What if Congress was treated like gun makers and gun owners?
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So this discussion of the New York Straw buyer is getting me thinking of the paranoia anti-gun freaks are pushing.
So we have a story of a woman buying a bunch of guns for an ex-con looking to cause some mayhem.
But there are some instances that came up that COULD be called a “Straw Buy”, but frankly aren’t. Things like parents buying their kid their first .22 youth model. Buying that special someone in your life a nice carry gun they’ve had their eyes on.
There is nothing sinister in this, and if you know the person well enough to know they’ll pass a NICS its not a straw buy. Its no different than selling, trading, or giving off other pieces of property. The duration its in your possession is irrelevant.
Same goes for private sales. The antis like to paint pictures of people selling guns out of the trunk of a car in a shady alley, but really we’re talking about people horse-trading, or looking to get the best price for unwanted items.
Another great example is “May Issue” permits. The antis paint the picture of a police chief doing a good look over of permits, and denying shady characters up to no good. Really its grounds for blanket denials, or a way for the chief to deny groups or individuals they don’t personally like.
The big elephant in the room is that gun control simply bans a ton of honest and wholesome behaviors for the HOPES that it’ll stop a criminal.
Of course the gang bangers stuff a stolen gun in their pants without concern for permits. Its not like they have an FDA permit for those drugs they’re selling either! The stolen guns are indeed being sold out of the trunk of cars or in flophouses, laws be damned.
So in the end its bad justice. People committing crimes because they want to surprise their wife or friend with that gun they always wanted, or for somebody who’s selling off guns because they need money and would rather not pay a gun store employee when they know people directly, and personally. And of course backwards police denying permits for people who are the wrong color, or are refusing to respect their abuse of authority.
This is what we fight against!
There are monsters among us, and they don’t need guns!
The 19-year-old San Antonio man who police say fatally attacked his sleeping father with an ax, began to “smile and laugh” at his booking when he overheard why he was arrested, MySanAntonio.com reported, citing a police report.
Now obviously this is in the “Gun Death” files, so it doesn’t matter what gun control we have, as he didn’t use a gun. Still there are monsters among us like this who will brutally murder a helpless person for an unknown reason, and have a good laugh at it. Some people will commit acts like this with a gun. Do you think by taking guns away from lawful citizens will stop them? Not only from getting guns if that’s their prerogative, but from picking other means of murder that are more easily accessible?
Also when confronted by a laughing axe murderer, what do you want to have, a cell phone to call 911, or a gun to STOP the attack?
How the NY Arson shooter got his guns:
The neighbor of a convicted felon who ambushed firefighters on Christmas Eve, killing two, bought the guns for him and lied to the seller, knowing that he wasn’t allowed to have them, authorities said Friday.
William Spengler had picked out the semiautomatic rifle and shotgun used in the ambush and went to the sporting goods store with the neighbor when she bought them for him, U.S. Attorney William Hochul said.
Oh no! The evil Straw-buy loophole! What happened?
The neighbor, Dawn Nguyen of Rochester, was arrested Friday. She faces a federal charge of knowingly making a false statement for signing a form indicating she would be the legal owner of the guns, Hochul said. She also was charged with a state count of filing a falsified business record, State Police Senior Investigator James Newell said….The federal charges carry a maximum penalty of ten years imprisonment, a fine of $250,000 or both.
So yet another crime that no additional laws could have prevented. They will push laws, bans, and confiscations to “Prevent Crimes” that will NEVER be prevented.
Gun laws are either the numbers game or like this case and bans on things like private sales, are redundant.
A neighbor found their bodies a week ago.
Gladys Del Carmen Sierra, 29, had been stuffed into a closet in her Miami home with her two daughters, aged 4 and 6. They’d all been suffocated to death….He locked the girls in a bedroom while he suffocated his wife with a plastic bag and then sexually assaulted her, police said.
He let one daughter out of the bedroom, police said, and suffocated her with a plastic bag; then found the other daughter and did the same while she slept. Police said he then sexually assaulted the first girl.
Their bodies then sat in the closet long enough that a smell drew the attention of a neighbor, police said.
What a monster! What a horrible story! Why would we talk about “Gun Death” as if somehow if he had SHOT his family it would be worse? Why would we talk about rates of “Gun Death”, as if MORE crimes like this would be preferable to shooting crimes?
We must not let people cite “Gun Death” as if its relevant! We must not let people ignore this crime, just so people can push their agenda!
h/t Wallphone
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David Gregory flashed a 30-round STANAG magazine on Meet the Press, which is filmed in DC. That magazine is a felony in the District. There was talk about Gregory facing criminal charges…now there’s talk he isn’t:
An official from the D.C. police told a member of the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that David Gregory COULD display a high capacity magazine on “Meet the Press” Sunday … TMZ has learned.
Well-placed law enforcement sources tell TMZ … a staffer from “Meet the Press” called ATF before the show aired to inquire about the legality of David holding the empty magazine during a segment on gun control. We’re told the ATF person contacted the D.C. police to find out if the District of Columbia — the place where the show is broadcast — had a law prohibiting such a display.
Our sources say the D.C. police official informed ATF David could legally show the magazine, provided it was empty. An ATF official then called the staffer from “Meet the Press” to inform them they could use the magazine.
D.C. police released a statement today, saying “NBC contacted the Metropolitan Police Dept. inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for this segment. NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazine is not permissible and the request was denied.”
Now one other thing we need to look at, besides the obvious bullshit that the law might be overlooked so long as an anti-rights dog-and-pony show is underway, is the potential for Gregory facing felony charges and possible jail time.
He’s a smarmy asshole, but is it reasonable to level such charges for simple possession of a piece of folded sheet-aluminum?
**UPDATE** WizardPC has an interesting observation over at Uncle’s:
Interesting that no one at nbc or mpd knew that for three days.
Retroactive permission?
This is a VERY good point, if NBC and Meet The Press were knowledgeable of the seriousness of possessing a normal-capacity magazine on national TV, and actively sought out a dispensation, why didn’t they, or MPD mention this when the press calls started coming in?
I suspect somebody made a phone call to avoid the charges because the propaganda was worth it. Either way, it shows that the laws are stupid and cause harm to harmless people, or shows that “Progressives” have no interest in following their own laws.
Gun laws, at their heart are unreasonable, and turn lawful citizens with no criminal intent into criminals.
That’s what the antis have been telling us:
Joan also doubled down on her tweet mentioned here on her blog.
So what’s the alternative? Bring back the assault weapons ban, and bring it back with some teeth this time. Ban the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Don’t let people who already have them keep them. Don’t let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market. I don’t care whether it’s called gun control or a gun ban. I’m for it.
And of course Joan’s own words are pro-confiscation.
Now Coumo speaks for himself, as does the Arizona judge. But Joan is both a representative of the Joyce Foundation, and the Brady Campaign, both organizations that will likely be submitted bills or criteria to the anti-rights politicians. Notice that Joan hasn’t be reprimanded or silenced. The Brady Campaign and the Joyce Foundation are failing, but given the small number anti-rights bloggers working for them, and the small amount of content they produce, I find it hard to believe they aren’t reading these posts about confiscation.
Another thing to think about is the proposed ban on private sale. This would likely mean that all sales would be on paper and submitted to the ATF, which could constitute a firearms registry.
We need to be VERY wary of this, as registries do nothing to stop crime, or prosecute criminals. What they DO very well, is set up a system for confiscation down the road. So even if they don’t manage to float confiscation this time around, they might make it one step easier NEXT time.
Be Cautious! They ARE coming for your guns.
