Now the biggest gun control victory in America in the last 40 years was the Federal Assault Weapons ban. It also turns out it was their biggest defeat as it woke up the casual gun owners and weekend hunters that indeed any appeasement of the anti-freedom crowd would eventually lead to the confiscation of their firearms. It also created what we now call “Gun Culture 2.0”, where 1.0 Gun Owners were hunters and target shooters, with the occasional revolver, pistol, or shotgun tucked in a bedroom “Just in case”, and the majority of these gun owners lived in rural America. 2.0 had the embrace of gun ownership of urban and suburban denizens, interest in concealed carry and defensive shooting, and popularity of practical shooting sports. This advance also further embraced all who were part of 1.0 so long as they weren’t hostile to the rights of the newer generation.
This movement has lead to the repeal of many unconstitutional, racist, and counter-productive gun laws, the expansion of concealed carry from a handful of may-issue states to 50 states, and now the District of Columbia having concealed carry, and most of those states with a Shall-Issue system, and of course, the sunset of the AWB. This series of crushing defeats has lead to the cult of anti-freedom to abandon the issue of banning firearms. They still want to ban them, but they know that they simply have zero chance of winning anymore.
So now they are doubling down on their runner-up victory which is even older. The Brady Background Check Bill.
Now let’s look at the “facts” presented. Starting they note that in 20 years there have been 118 million NICS checks, and 2 million denials. On it’s face that’s 1.6% of all checks denied. We can argue if that is reasonable, but first let’s look to see how relevant those numbers are. Have a look at this analysis:
About 99 percent of people who apply to buy a firearm are quickly cleared. But about 1 to 2 percent are denied, mainly because the records show that he or she has a felony indictment or conviction. The data also show that about 5 percent successfully appeal their denials.
Applications: 6,037,394
FBI denials: 72,659 (1.2 percent)
Appeals 16,513 (22.7 percent)
Successful appeals 3,491 (4.77 percent of denials)
OK while that’s not huge number of denials overall, the appeals numbers aren’t breathtaking. What does it mean?
But here is where it gets complicated. After a review by an arm of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), only a tiny percentage of the cases are actually referred to ATF field divisions for possible referral to prosecutors. Here are the data for 2010 concerning FBI denials.
FBI denials referred to ATF: 76,142
Referred to field: 4,732 (6.2 percent)
Not referred to field: 68,209 (89.6 percent)
Overturned: 3,163 (4.2 percent)
At first glance, these numbers seemed astonishing. In other words, another 4 percent of initial denials were found to be wrong — and nine out of 10 were not deemed worthy of further investigation.
Then, virtually all of these cases were declined by ATF field offices. Here are some of the key reasons, with essentially one-quarter being a case of mistaken denial — even after weeks of investigation.
No prosecutorial merit: 1,661
Federal/state guidelines not met: 1,092
Not a prohibited person: 480
Closed by supervisor: 457
No potential or unfounded: 396
In the end, 62 cases were referred for prosecution, but most were declined by prosecutors or dismissed by the court. Out of the original 73,000 denials, there emerge just 13 guilty pleas.
Now, let’s back up a moment. As far as we can determine, the very low rate of referrals does not mean that most of the denials were “false positives” or unwarranted. But it does mean that such cases are a low priority for government prosecutors.
So we aren’t dealing with “Dangerous Criminals”, we’re just dealing with paperwork. Good Job Gun-Grabbers!
Next up, let’s look at that “2 out of every 5 guns are sold or transferred without a background check”. Have a look at where the numbers come from:
The White House says the figure comes from a 1997 Institute of Justice report, written by Philip Cook of Duke University and Jens Ludwig of the University of Chicago. This study is based on data collected from a survey in 1994, just the Brady law requirements for background checks was coming into effect. (In fact, the questions concerned purchases in 1993 and 1994, while Brady law went into effect in early 1994.) In other words, this is a really old figure.
The data is available for researchers to explore at the Interuniversity consortium on political and social research (ICPSR) at the University of Michigan. Digging deeper, we find that the survey sample was just 251 people. (The survey was done by telephone, using a random-digit-dial method, with a response rate of 50 percent.) With this sample size, the 95 percent confidence interval will be plus or minus 6 percentage points.
Moreover, when asked if he or she bought from a licensed firearms dealer, the possible answers included “probably was/think so” and “probably not,” leaving open the possibility the purchaser was mistaken. (The “probably not” answers were counted as “no.”)
When all of the “yes” and “probably was” answers were added together, that left 35.7 percent of respondents indicating they did not receive the gun from a licensed firearms dealer. Rounding up gets you to 40 percent, though as we noted the survey sample is so small it could also be rounded down to 30 percent.
Moreover, when gifts, inheritances and prizes are added in, then the number shrinks to 26.4 percent. (The survey showed that nearly 23.8 percent of the people surveyed obtained their gun either as a gift or inherited it, and about half of them believed a licensed firearms dealer was the source.)
So get that? First a study that was conducted 17 years ago, about guns transferred 20 years ago, that only surveyed 251 people. So when we’re dealing with tens of millions of transfers, we survey 251 people. The numbers turned out to be just 35.7% which was heavily rounded up. Further “probably was” and “Probably not” answers were also heavily rounded up to “yes” and “no”, and even then the family transfers that even the antis are willing to concede take a HUGE chunk out of that already iffy number.
So it COULD be right, or it COULD be crap, either way they quote it as “fact”.
The biggest whopper is that it takes “60 seconds for a licensed dealer to complete a Brady Background check”. Where did they get this number? It takes me a few minuets to fill out the 4473 (and that’s not counting the time it takes for the dealer to provide me the form and a pen), It takes more than 60 seconds to dial the phone and wait for an answer. Hell it takes more than 60 seconds for the dealer to read all the information and spell the relevant parts over the phone. Maybe once that’s all said and done it takes 60 seconds for the person on the other end to clear the transfer, but boy it takes me about an hour from the time when I say “OK, I’ll take it!” to when I walk out the door with my new gun.
And these are the people dictating how guns are handled in this country?
I’ll add a personal note. I’ve been denied.
It was on two AR lowers and I got what’s called a provisional. I had to wait a week to pick up my lowers because of it.
I am not a prohibited person, the carry permit and the tax-stamps are testimony to that; but sometimes the system hiccups (I also don’t have a common name). I am fairly certain that Brady considers my denial as part of their count and considers it a success that I was delayed in buying two more ARs.
A fellow member of the car club locally is going through the process of getting a Unique ID from the FBI because he does have a common enough name and matches the description of a genuine felon with that same name. His security clearance and job with the Navy at MacDill says he’s not a felon himself, but he’s denied every time he tries to buy a gun and has to go through the tedium of proving he’s the OTHER buy with that name.
McThag, you hit on something, all right. The Brady Bill is causing harm to some law-abiding people. I was asking myself yesterday if there’s an identifiable population of law-abiding (i. e., non-prohibited) citizens who want to buy a firearm but decline to buy one because they fear the Brady check will trigger inquiries into their income tax status, immigration status, gossip about their firearm purchase, etc. It’s pretty reasonable to me to somehow guesstimate the size of that population, and likewise guesstimate how many self-defense opportunities those folks have had to forego because they were intimidated by Brady into not lawfully buying a firearm. I’m just speculating; I don’t have any real expertise.
Second, is there any evidence of where career criminals of yesteryear, way before Brady, actually got their guns? Just speculating again. This time I’m wondering whether folks like Barrow, Dillinger, Nelson, Floyd, and so on bought some, most, all, or none of their firearms from local gun shops. Again, I have no expertise, but I’m guessing there’s a possibility Brady may be a hammer hitting the wrong nail.
Almost NONE of the old time gangsters bought their guns at gun stores. Most of them were active before there *were* “gun stores*, and bought guns at unlicensed and uncontrolled pawn shops or hardware stores, where they bought them at all — and that was just for the handguns. The rifles, shotguns, and machineguns they mostly stole from National Guard and police armories
Why am I seeing bureaucratic and legislative incentives to create a brainless and ever-expanding list of prohibited persons?
Related topic.
Milwaukee DA is not prosecuting Possession of a Firearm by a Felon in about Half (47%) of the cases referred by the police. But Milwaukee’s mayor wants more laws.
http://mediatrackers.org/wisconsin/2014/09/18/half-felon-gun-possession-crimes-milwaukee-never-charged
There’s a LOT of fail in that infographic.
The “2 in 5 purchases forgo a background check” myth was de-bunked (twice!) by (IIRC) Washington Post’s Fact Checker, using those same numbers. The first time, it got Two Pinocchios for being demonstrably misleading. Then, when Prez 0bama continued to use the flawed statistic to stump for more gun regulation, they “downgraded” it to Three Pinocchios. The really funny thing: According to the first analysis, if he had used the word “transfers” instead of “purchases”, he might have been correct, but it wouldn’t have prompted the outrage of the anti-gun cult.
There is no “Internet Loophole” or “Gun Show Loophole” in most places. Private transactions are a thing in most of Free America, but it’s not a “loophole” in the law (something not addressed in the law, therefore presumed to be legal); it’s often specifically exempted by the law (explicitly stated to be legal).
“$75,000,000 spent by the gun lobby”: Look at the cite. That’s $75 million, over 15 years, or an average of $5 million per year, or an average of $1-2 per NRA member per year.
[sarcasm] Truly a horrifying amount of influence, that. [/sarcasm]
Furthermore, if you look at the actual source for that citation, here, and read the whole section, you’ll find that in 2012, the Big Bad Gun Rights Lobby (the whole lobby) spent a grand total of $5.6 million lobbying Congress, while Michael Bloomberg’s super-PAC alone spent $8.3 million that year in Congressional races.
Just my $0.02 (which shouldn’t be worth any less than Bloomberg’s).
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