Gun Review: Beretta 21A

While I’m a big caliber guy, and I love the new breed of subcompact and pocketable automatics in 9x19mm or greater, I have a soft spot for those micro-guns of yesteryear in the miniscule cartridges of .22 LR, .25 ACP, and .32 ACP (and to some extent .380 Auto).

(Sorry for the crappy Cellphone camera shots. I have a line on a new Camera, and just need buy the damn thing)
I have such conflicting feelings with these guns. These guns are 100% defensive arms. They aren’t built for target shooting, and they aren’t in major hunting calibers. They are built to be small, light, and easy to carry. Until you get to VERY modern guns these are in VERY light calibers.

These guns are relics of the past, just like a .303 Enfield can be still used to fend off attackers, frankly technology has made some very impressive guns that do the job that the SMLE was originally built to do, better. Same goes for these little micro-pistols. You can find a safer, better, lighter, and easier shoot gun than these, at about the same size and weight in .380 ACP or 9×19.

Still its not like these are BAD guns, and I love what they represent. The gun in the top middle is a Colt Vest Pocket that was made in Hartford Connecticut in 1917. Its a microscopic gun in a microscopic caliber (.25 ACP) but it shows that even in “more civil times”, and not just out in the “Wild West” but in the big cities Back East people wanted a small light gun they could carrying around with not much burden.
This little Colt is a fine swiss watch of sorts. It runs like a champ and feels good in the hand. The ergonomics aren’t quite of M1911 levels, but John Browning knew his stuff. Still the cartridge is VERY weak, but quite expensive. Still if you FEEL the need to carry a small gun in .22 or .25 ACP, .25 might be a better choice as Centerfire rounds tend to hold up a little better when it comes to reliability.

The Lower Right was a surrogate for the Colt, still a small gun (tho not as much) but in .22 LR. This is my Jennings J-22. Its a mostly-zinc “Potmetal” gun made to be an inexpensive gun for people who couldn’t afford a larger, more complicated gun, but still had the need to defend themselves. Its actually a surprisingly good gun (but then again I set the bar low) its surprisingly easy to shoot accurately as it has much larger sights than most guns of its size, and a barrel with micro-rifling that seems to do a good job at keeping the bullets stable in flight.

It is NOT a reliable gun. As a rule I find that you can get through about 50 rounds with only a few jams…then afterwards you’re going to spend more time clearing jams than shooting.

So let’s talk about the lower Left. I have a friend who got me hooked on Mouse guns (he actually sold me the Colt), in his private collection he has a Beretta 21A in .25 ACP. I got a chance to handle it, and I was impressed with the elegance of the design, I decided if a variant in .22 LR became available to me (these guns are not Massachusetts approved, so they are rare in-state) I’d grab one.

Well one became available. I almost didn’t get it, but I couldn’t stop thinking about it, and its rarity, as well as what good condition it was in. I decided to get it the next day (and somebody came in looking for it while I was doing the paperwork).

Its a neat gun indeed. The big thing is it features a tip-up barrel and an action that does not have an extractor.
Beretta 21A Barrel
To load this gun you simply flip the lever (which is situated in a similar location to a slide lock or a take-down lever) which released the barrel (which pops up under spring tension), insert a loaded magazine, the insert a cartridge directly into the chamber. The same to clear the gun you simply drop the magazine and flip up the barrel.

Never once in the standard operation of this gun do you need to rack the slide. That’s just cool!

I said the gun doesn’t have any extractors, which is what allows you to drop rounds directly into the chamber (it is ill-advised to do this in a conventional pistol because it forced the extractor to crash into the cartridge rim and jump over the rim. This can stress your extractor and cause it to eventually break, also it might cause a rim-fire cartridge to discharge) Instead the cartridge is ejection simply from gas pressure inside the barrel.

This “jet fire” ejection has been said can cause the gun to be less reliable. Overall I find .22 LR pistols to be more unreliable than centerfire cartridges in the first place. Still I was using mostly Federal American Eagle supersonic ammunition at the range today and it wasn’t until the gun had eaten a little over 100 rounds that it started showing signs or decreased reliability.

The sights are of the microscopic type of these old-style pocket pistols. The rear sight is simply a raised hump with a notch ground into it at the back of the slide. The front sight is a short skinny blade at the muzzle. My Colt .25’s sights are practically unuseable, I expected the Beretta sights to be the same. They weren’t. They weren’t as easy as my carry guns with their big sight blocks, but I actually found I could put sights on target without too much difficulty, even against a black target.

The gun is DA/SA, the hammer and trigger can be manipulated with the barrel tipped up, so the hammer can be decocked before the gun is loaded. The hammer also features a half-cock notch for added drop-safety. The gun also has an inertial firing pin.

The SA trigger pull is as nice as anything you could expect. No slack, no over-travel, and a clean break. The DA pull is clean until you get to the sear when there is quick stack in pull pressure before the trigger breaks cleanly. This isn’t so bad that it pulls your shot low, but it isn’t as pretty as it could be.

At the range until it started getting gummed up I couldn’t put it down. IT IS SO FUN TO SHOOT! I’m glad I got it.

Cleaning, is a joy too.

Just pop the barrel up, cock the hammer, and pull the slide back slightly to pop it off the leaf springs that serve as the recoil spring, then lift the slide off the frame. Its an open-top slide like most Berettas, so its VERY easy to clean. To put the gun back together you just drop the slide back on the frame and then click the barrel back in place and function-test.

So a VERY cool gun. They’re easy to get in free America, and I recommend them to anybody interested in an inexpensive and fun gun for range use, or as a backup gun. I wouldn’t recommend this as a primary carry because .22LR and .25 ACP is a very weak round…still if this is all you can or want to shoot, its better than a sharp stick.

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Ridiculous Discrimination

So Barron found this story for me, thinking it might piss me off.

He was right.

A former student at Colorado Mountain College says she was forced to drop a class because she had a seizure

OK that doesn’t upset me. The Mrs. was a “Closet Epileptic” for the majority of her life with the disease, for those who read me back in the Livejournal days might remember some of my more cryptic posts, tho the hardest were the times when I said NOTHING, and had to help conceal the illness.

Still I pointed out to her before she “Came Out” that the people who get the hardcore discrimination are the Epileptics who have the violent seizures. Frankly with that there is some reasonable considerations to be made. Obviously and uncontrolled epileptic as a driver for a company, also it isn’t best if your company receptionist is thrashing, foaming, and wetting their pants. Also I’ll point out the article doesn’t give the frequency of her seizures. Some people might have one a month, or one every few years…others might have 3-4 a day. Still…

Channing Seideman was in the middle of an emergency medical technician class when she had an epileptic seizure. She said faculty members asked her to drop the class, saying the episode was too distracting to other students and there could be more.

An EMT class! Let me put it this way, we had a practical lab back when I was getting licensed as a Fishery Observer. We had classroom work, then we took a break, then we went into the lab where a bunch of frozen fish had been thawed this morning.

When you freeze a WHOLE fish (guts and all) then thaw it, you get a lot of nasty liquid which even in a cold room will oxidize and start to smell. This was nothing horrible, but the room was a bit ripe when we came in.

I had grabbed a cup of tea and an apple from the snack cart, and I finished the tea, but brought the apple into the lab. People asked me how I could be eating in the room. These were all people planning on LIVING on Commercial Fishing Boats! If a little fish stink gets you off your feed, you’re gonna lose some weight in this job!

If a woman having a seizure wrecks the EMT class, maybe EMT isn’t your calling. Especially given that there are LOADS more things that will cause a non-epileptic to have a seizure, such as drugs or trauma, or various illnesses.

Again it doesn’t say how often her seizures are, but given that the article only mentions ONE, I can’t imagine that she’s that frequent.

If a young woman having a seizure ruins your day, its time to re-think your career path as EMT or Medicine.

I wish her luck in her lawsuit.

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“Gun Death” iPod

Some people just love apple products…some a little too much.

A 19-year-old Bowie State University student was charged Friday with stabbing her roommate to death after the two argued over an iPod.

Even an iPhone is just a few hundred bucks and a person is now dead. Of course this is a college campus so no guns are allowed, and this isn’t a “Gun Death” because the victim was stabbed.

Nice, huh?

h/t Sarah

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Lunchbreak LOL

From Endo-Mike:

I was able to hold it in until they said “OPERATORS ARE STANDING BY!” WOW that’s funny!

Also good to see the California RKBA Shirt a bunch of us got the fire Selector one, but that one is really cool, and funnier if you live on the Left Coast.

Yarrrr

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Let’s Play a Game

So a Joyce Shill decided to makes a White House Petition to ban private sale. Thanks to the “Massive Popular Support” of gun control it has managed to get two Signatures (Note the names are both Joyce Shills at that) in Four days! (Actually it was Two in Two, and that might be all the support they can muster!)

So a few of us have created a few Polls (Sean Lists them here, tho he didn’t create all of them), pop over to see how they’re doing, and maybe sign up for an account and add your name as well while you’re at it.

While these petitions will doubtfully inspire any major action, and could result in your address being compiled by the white house (I used my public email that also happens to have a VERY nice Spam trap, so no worries there) it does do two useful things:

#1. It shows that the antis have ZERO grassroots support, and couldn’t organize a potluck supper, let alone sweeping legal changes to the nation.

#2. If the petition gains the 5,000 signatures I suspect SOMEBODY in the White House will read it and make note of it. It may be discarded, or it may be brought up in the 2012 election campaign. Further the HR 822 petition gets the 5,000 it might sent the word that if this bill reaches the President’s desk, a Veto would be politically unwise.

So go out there and let your voice be heard. Also if you create, or know of some other pro-rights petitions send them to Sean to add to his post.

Let’s see if we can get the 5,000 by the end of the month!

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“Gun Death” Sucker Punch

Of course in a world without guns people will just settle their disputes with their fists.

A former Radford University student charged with second-degree murder in connection with the death of a man last month was granted bond this morning but placed on house arrest…At a bond hearing this morning in Radford Circuit Court, Czajkowski’s lawyer, Jimmy Turk, said the alleged assault “would appear to be one punch. The victim tragically fell back and hit his head.”

Duncan’s autopsy report has not yet been completed, Turk said, but it is believed he died of a heart attack.

All it takes is a single punch to kill another human, be it a power-shot or a lucky-shot. Now note how many people have fists. Now note how many people are murderers.

Is there a reason why we go after tools rather than focusing on the people who commit such crimes?

h/t Jake

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Quote of the Day: Waldo

From my Buddy Waldo on guns with extraneous safeties.

I guess what I’m trying to say is if someone wants a gun, but doesn’t trust themselves with it unless it’s got three different safeties to disengage before a DA shot, than maybe they should hire a handler or something to keep them from drowning in their soup, or walking through glass doors, or some shit. My frustration with how we so readily accommodate the incompetent

Any gun that is capable of sending a round down range, is capable of sending a round some place regrettable. I complain about the new crop of Ruger pistols having unnecessary safeties. Still no matter how many stupid safeties are on a gun, if you don’t follow the 4 rules, you will eventually have something regrettable happen. Meanwhile there are so many expert shooters who use Glocks for self defense, work, and competition and have had NO problems because if you follow the 4 rules you’ll NEVER have anything regrettable.

The safety is between your ears, and nowhere else.

Oh also what’s Ironic is Waldo and I both own and carry 1911s that have a thumb safety, grip safety, and a firing pin block. I dunno if he feels the need to justify his love for the 1911….but I point out that the 1911 is a proven platform, so as excessive the safeties are, they work as advertised, so let’s not get silly! 😀

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Morning LOL

Had a big blog day yesterday with huge hits from Tam, and Say Uncle, and possibly some gun control group using some intermediate so I can’t find the source. Still don’t have much today as of yet.

Still Robb drops this funny post. Reminds me of Day Job Orchestra and their LOL videos

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“Gun Death” Hidden Pregnancy

Stuff I will just never get:

A Tennessee woman secretly gave birth to twin boys in a toilet in the home she shares with her parents and then smothered the infants and hid their bodies in a bedroom laundry basket, police said Friday.

I’ve heard of severely overweight women concealing a pregnancy, but I don’t see her as one of those, so did the folks know she was pregnant?

Also what is up with somebody carrying a baby to term and then killing it.

Of course no “Gun Death”, but I’ll note that if she instead had gone to planned parenthood a few months earlier this wouldn’t be considered a death at all. Does that make sense to you?

h/t WizardPC and Janelle and Bob

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OK, Worth a Listen

Saw last night that Adam Carolla put up a podcast interviewing the revolting Michael Moore. I immediatly thought of this Tom Green Abortion from Nerdist, but knowing that I can always delete it if it goes off the rails, I thought I’d give it a shot. Before we get going, it was good. Of course when Mike got speaking either I knew he was lying, or a suspected he was lying. He’s a pathological liar (BTW there are a ton of great documentaries about Mr. Moore and his total lack of ethics and honesty, also I recommend this book by the great Dave Hardy…and it might be fun if you think that $12 for an awesome book is doable to click through Adam Carolla’s Amazon banner, just for irony), but he seemed to know Carolla well enough to keep from stuffing his fat foot to far in his mouth.

Still it was overall an interesting and funny show. Still if you don’t listen to podcasts, or just aren’t interested, the big part I wanted to tell everybody about was what Adam put up on his youtube channel:

This whole clip proceeds a talk about United Flight 93 where the passengers resisted the terrorists. Mike even says that if “All the terrorists had guns they’d still be overwhelmed by the passengers if they all fought back” (paraphrased quote)…I’ll note that Mike is 100% right there, just look at the Tuscon Arizona Shooting, people didn’t comply and they fought back, even unarmed, and stopped the attack.

Irony reaches critical mass with that video clip, where Moore, a champion for victim disarmament points out that bare-handed isn’t the way to go into a fight, and talks about carrying improvised weapons on a plane.

Now Moore is a disgustingly obese and out-of-shape guy, but a lot of fat guys were big dudes who let their waists go (and it seems that big burly guys don’t seem to have the metabolism through life of the pipe-cleaner dudes), but Moore of course was a scrawny kid who packed on a pile of dead weight, likely through self loathing (one thing Mr. Moore and I agree on, we both loathe Michael Moore), just look at the muscle tone on his arms as he lifts them up to feign a garrote. This is the anti-gun Kung-fu Panda X100, do you think Moore could muster the speed and strength to use either of his improvised weapons with any affect?

I suspect, and why he is talking about it, he expects some all-American line-backer to take his advice and come to his rescue. If an attack like this happens again, I hope he’s right, because besides Moore there will likely be people on the plane worth saving.

Kinda interesting when Antis have to comfort themselves with self-defense, to justify wanting to ban guns.

And then they call me paranoid for wearing a .45.

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