Joe Links this Gem I’ll start with the closing remarks:
With heels dug in, we proceed in our hyperbolic conversation about guns and rights in this country. I am quite sure there is common ground somewhere. Can we get there? Can we talk? Can we agree on just a few things? I think we can.
Now first up I’ll point out that this blogger has a very strong habit blocking ANY comments from people who disagree with her. As a matter of fact I’ve looked over months of blog posts and found THIS one was the ONLY one with comments from a pro-rights advocates. Joe brought her blog to my attention in mid-August, you’d think there would be more comments. Hell I dropped a few polite rebuttals there and they were all removed. You’re running against the tide from the get-go, hon. Oh also note that Curt has the lion’s share of rebuttals there and she instead is choosing to change subjects, and move goal posts. This is not the first time we’ve seen behavior like this.
But it gets worse!:
So, here are a few items that were decided in favor of gun violence prevention. First, the Obama administration has wisely decided that importing hundreds of thousands of M-1 military style rifles from South Korea is not a good idea. Let’s see now- the NRA is claiming a gun ban by the Justice Department because the department decided that allowing 850,000 military style weapons into our country for sale may allow some of them to end up in the wrong hands. These are dangerous weapons. Why do people want them? Some will say to collect them because they are, after all, antique firearms. Here are the words of Dennis Henigan, V.P. of the Brady Center: ” “Guns that can take high-capacity magazines are a threat to public safety,” said Dennis Henigan of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. “Even though they are old, these guns could deliver a great amount of firepower. So I think the Obama administration’s concerns are well-taken.”
This is what we’re dealing with. Calling the M1 Garand a “”Guns that can take high-capacity magazine”? Not without heavy modification. The Garand feeds from 8-round en-bloc clips fed into a fixed magazine. Its a military battle rifle, but it was never even considered an “Assault Weapon” or “High Capacity” by any gun-control laws. They are popular hunting and sporting rifles, and amazingly valuable collector’s pieces. (I told my Father-in-law what Garands and M1903 Springfields were selling for these days and he nearly fainted), what common ground can we have to somebody who can’t run a Simple Web Search? Or maybe she did, but decided the facts weren’t relevant. Either way not something to be proud of.
Does anyone care that criminals, domestic abusers, terrorists and dangerously mentally ill people can get guns in the secondary markets without background checks?
Care enugh to make it a federal crime…why? Seriously, do you know ANYTHING that you’re talking about?
Does anyone care that a sensible law which would stop prohibited people from buying guns in one of the secondary markets has been stopped again and again by the NRA?
Umm, see above, the law would NOT stop prohibited people from buying guns…there are already laws that do that, and they’re as effective as any other law. Let’s face it, this is a woman who has devoted a blog to “Gun Death” and promoting gun control laws as a mean to stop this.
Well of course “Gun Death” is a stupid metric, but things like assault and murder are already illegal, and already hold pretty stiff penalties (if the judges don’t soft-ball the case) and they don’t actually STOP these crimes, so her wishes already don’t mesh with reality. But yeah the law didn’t stop prohibited people from buying guns on the secondary market…it stopped LAWFUL people from buying guns. So yeah, it was GOOD that the bill was stopped.
So yeah, first up, you make it pretty clear that your call to find “Common Ground” is actually just asking those of us who are rational and like our freedom to submit to your oppressive and ineffective whims.
Sorry, no. If a grown-up from the gun-control crowd wants to step forward, I’m perfectly willing to talk with them. I’m also well aware they don’t exist, as all advocates for gun control act equally as childish.
So no, we need to keep repealing gun control laws, and press such bigoted and ignorant mindsets off into the shadows. Not only is there no common ground when it comes to human rights, but even if I were to concede that the right to self-defense was NOT a human right, your proposed legislation is a proven failure, and filled with fallacies, so there is no rational reason to support your views.
Maybe that’s why you don’t actually want to talk with us.
